tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post2366819518878148317..comments2024-03-13T01:23:33.651+00:00Comments on Bessler's Wheel and the Orffyreus Code: The "TOYS" Page ReviewedJohn Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-78557464631744624402020-08-12T08:49:45.563+01:002020-08-12T08:49:45.563+01:00I'm giving a testimony about Dr Nogadu the gre...I'm giving a testimony about Dr Nogadu the great Herbalist, he has the cure to all manner of diseases, he cured my herpes simplex virus, though I went through different website I saw different testimonies about different spell casters and herbalist, I was like: 'Many people's have the herpes simplex virus cure why are people still suffering from it?' 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Kais Vadimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18310561679217916280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-11413692015863172312019-01-13T19:15:22.815+00:002019-01-13T19:15:22.815+00:00With all the pictures and drawings that Bessler ma...With all the pictures and drawings that Bessler made, does any of them show a specific part used for the overbalanced mechanisms? I thought I read somewhere that each picture contains a piece of the actual part needed to build the gravity wheel.Perpetualmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13843966744478081402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-75710693268233101542019-01-12T18:16:08.894+00:002019-01-12T18:16:08.894+00:00Bessler is toying with us with the toy page. Heh :...Bessler is toying with us with the toy page. Heh :)yellownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-64555177523022638632019-01-09T18:01:01.701+00:002019-01-09T18:01:01.701+00:00How clever he was...is to have kept this secret f...How clever he was...is to have kept this secret for so long with so many clues that point to the solution.Gravitteahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904100340384577146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-43832358850478749262019-01-09T07:51:44.752+00:002019-01-09T07:51:44.752+00:00Oh, good. I thank you for that. I searched some ov...Oh, good. I thank you for that. I searched some over at BWF and found a reference to them in Stewart's pages.<br /><br />Hmm, interesting. One wonders what the one for year 2019 might state.<br /><br />As far as the subject of the Toy Page goes, I can state that it provided myself with the most information that was tangibly useful to final, desired effect. Without it I would not be in the desirable position that I now am.<br /><br />Most of "it" is there as Bessler said, it being "the principle."<br /><br />(Did he not state somehow, somewhere that there was but one, no? And, that it might be utilized variously as to configuration? Assuming this-so, I believe it!!!)<br /><br />James Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17802167012893394180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-76839078318483332342019-01-09T04:56:18.299+00:002019-01-09T04:56:18.299+00:00A stop that allows a pressure to be exerted on the...A stop that allows a pressure to be exerted on the perimeter.. which is the greatest possible position for a moment arm to occurGravitteahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904100340384577146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-3154524717236847542019-01-08T23:12:37.400+00:002019-01-08T23:12:37.400+00:00Also consider purchasing John Collin's English...Also consider purchasing John Collin's English translations of Bessler's books (AP, MT, etc.). They are your best resources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-58509183662117151552019-01-08T21:07:22.210+00:002019-01-08T21:07:22.210+00:00Thanks Anonymous!!!
Thanks Anonymous!!!<br />Perpetualmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11732817775886643377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-15743474382578201182019-01-08T16:05:18.998+00:002019-01-08T16:05:18.998+00:00RAF Item A is an etcetera drawing showing the sa...RAF Item A is an etcetera drawing showing the same FORM, image, of the rectangular pantograph in C and D turned vertical. The arms are lined up with the rim stops in B and clever Mr. Bessler shows us how to size the pantograph for ANY wheel diameter !! If this thesis is correct then the rim stops are the outer part of an escapement, the pantograph the inner. If Mr. Bessler is anything he is the Grand Master of hidden motif!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-80653998847248312282019-01-08T15:49:29.886+00:002019-01-08T15:49:29.886+00:00RAF I now see that in item B, Mr. Bessler, eve...RAF I now see that in item B, Mr. Bessler, ever whimsical and clever,has straightened out the rim of the wheel and made it a vertical line! The "blobs" are rim stops, 5 on one wheel face and 5 on the back wheel face, the front set offset from the back set by 37 and 1/2 degrees. Hence the importance of the ever present 5 and 5 motif. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-89320298035663950182019-01-08T15:36:45.132+00:002019-01-08T15:36:45.132+00:00RAF Long ago I regarded your wise council and in...RAF Long ago I regarded your wise council and installed an enlarged drawing of M.T.138 on my workbench in my lab.I have studied it for the last 4 years.I consider it the Rosetta stone for deciphering the Bessler enigma. Always before me has been your statement " Simplicity is the key" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-16922527619289661082019-01-08T11:55:41.912+00:002019-01-08T11:55:41.912+00:00James, I have seen a translation of one of his pan...James, I have seen a translation of one of his panegyrics to Karl, but I do not have it in my possession. I do have several pages similar to the piece I posted on the topic, but they are all mostly chronograms. What I can tell you is that the translations of the German prose, obviously for Karl’s personal attention, were fulsome in their praise for Karl and accompanied with cloyingly sweet wishes for his continued good health. One can assume they were probably sent in the hope that the Landgrave would continue to hold Bessler’s secret in total confidence.<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-23640254658239228212019-01-08T06:59:07.765+00:002019-01-08T06:59:07.765+00:00John, this Toys Page is a terrific topic and I pro...John, this Toys Page is a terrific topic and I promise to speak to it soon but, I must diverge from it just a bit right now, if I might?<br /><br />In the last post for the New Year you wrote:<br /><br />"In a previous post I asked if Johann Bessler foretold the year of the reappearance of his wheel? I asked this because he published a panegyric to Karl, the Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel, dated 2019."<br /><br />This is exceedingly interesting to me.<br /><br />At where might this "panegyric" be seen in toto? It was big news to me as I'd never even heard it spoken-of.<br /><br />Merci!<br /><br />JamesJameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17802167012893394180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-72090941727980791202019-01-08T06:28:20.555+00:002019-01-08T06:28:20.555+00:00John, if take here together all your Toy page find...John, if take here together all your Toy page findings, that you have published in different places and made at different times. My question here is, are all those toy page findings just an introduction, to the "next level information", what's coming in the near future or is here just all the information you have found on the toy page?<br /><br />All the best<br />PLMKRNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-46829807592018781172019-01-08T01:11:22.510+00:002019-01-08T01:11:22.510+00:00http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5312...http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5312&highlight=300+cluesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-35150718938192216162019-01-07T20:46:00.295+00:002019-01-07T20:46:00.295+00:00Mabey this question has already been asked but, wh...Mabey this question has already been asked but, where can I look to find some quotes that Bessler used to describe the inner workings of his wheel? Like, one pound of weight can lift X amount of pounds and so on.Perpetualmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11732817775886643377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-41689762253952826032019-01-07T17:11:52.264+00:002019-01-07T17:11:52.264+00:00Badly worded RAF, A is to be split into five separ...Badly worded RAF, A is to be split into five separate mechanisms and B is also to be split into five mechanisms, but whereas A is shown in more detail in C, B which is also shown but with a twist indicated, also has two levers protruding from the top of one of the five mechanisms. So while B is not to be confused with A, it does bear similarities, but has additional features.<br /><br />In my opinion B represents connections between the mechanisms. He could not add the two levers to each of the five parts in B, so he showed the twist in each of the five parts and just added the levers to one of the twisted mechanisms, just my opinion!<br /><br />JCyJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-87368547339409409362019-01-07T15:41:07.516+00:002019-01-07T15:41:07.516+00:00RAF Greetings John, Thanks for the Toy Page revie...RAF Greetings John, Thanks for the Toy Page review! You said that item B has no connection to item A,so what does B represent to you? What is Mr. Bessler conveying to us in item B?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-11025934015488736652019-01-05T20:52:11.735+00:002019-01-05T20:52:11.735+00:00In this case John, I think you point away from the...In this case John, I think you point away from the essence of it. I read these chapters with my breakfast coffee today and what he is actually defending is Perpetual Motion versus Everlasting Motion as people like to believe or demand. Perpetual Motion is Perpetual Motion even if the parts will wear out. The form is the same, but a machine (or a sphere) made from different material will last for a longer or shorter time, but never forever! A true Perpetual Motion Machine will not and can not run forever, but still it is Perpetual! <br /><br />And as proven before, his clues doesn't solely point at the number 5, but most of the time is accompanied by the number 3.. Together they make up 8. (IMO)<br /><br />Best <br />ØR Øysteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458700332467872501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-87764307501165170872019-01-05T04:20:48.245+00:002019-01-05T04:20:48.245+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stephen Gloriosohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12305514113840044382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-14638698274537684512019-01-04T22:04:08.337+00:002019-01-04T22:04:08.337+00:00Or as a simple idea.
You can arrange the parts in...Or as a simple idea.<br /><br />You can arrange the parts in the Toys Page to make all sorts of OOB wheel look-alikes. Yours will have the same FORM as Bessler's true PM wheel, as an IRON sphere is to a WAX sphere, in that both are spheres, or both look like OOB wheels. But yours will have no vis viva and drive itself and other objects, while his "a priori" arrangement will.<br /><br />-fletcherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-83147834250645411022019-01-04T21:53:26.655+00:002019-01-04T21:53:26.655+00:00Very good analysis John. I agree with you, A and B...Very good analysis John. I agree with you, A and B must be two different toys. Bessler uses same letter for one mechanism, even if there are multiple views of it. But what are they? Well, if not jacobs ladder, some kind of a chain may be? yellownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-13297007049796548502019-01-04T21:24:54.610+00:002019-01-04T21:24:54.610+00:00Good morning John .. I think Bessler might even be...Good morning John .. I think Bessler might even be saying A MORE BASIC TRUTH. Both in these quotes about form and in relation to the Toys Page.<br /><br />"In a machine such as mine, ..... the motive force, the ABILITY TO MOVE ITSELF AND DRIVE OTHER OBJECTS makes up the FORM of the device, without which its framework is just any old heap of material, which has completely LOST ITS ESSENCE."<br /><br />"For form gives the essence of the thing."<br /><br />IMO FORM is the formal arrangement (and order of operation) of the parts. Arranged such that the wheel can move itself and drive other objects if this is observed. If not it takes on no 'life' of its own.<br /><br />And so IMO the Toys Page shows the basic parts list and actions. But not how they are ordered, arranged, or interact together to find the final FORM that gives the wheel vis viva.<br /><br />And that is what he means when he says "there is something extraordinary for anyone who knows how to apply them in a different way". That is how to arrange them to have a life of its own.<br /><br />Best -fletcherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-36187409087657309972019-01-04T18:16:17.971+00:002019-01-04T18:16:17.971+00:00Great interpretation John, I congratulate you.
In ...Great interpretation John, I congratulate you.<br />In my opinion :<br />1. This form will be suitable for all applications.<br />2. This can also be done using 5.<br />3. 5 is unique because it has something, but it is not something you should first find - know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com