tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post2900706957702229764..comments2024-03-27T11:55:27.988+00:00Comments on Bessler's Wheel and the Orffyreus Code: John Collins is 70 today!John Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-50265042070576410452015-02-14T16:07:03.290+00:002015-02-14T16:07:03.290+00:00Thanks for the well wishes, John. Sounds like you...Thanks for the well wishes, John. Sounds like you are doing what I call "intuitive engineering". It can certainly produce results and has in the case of many important inventions such as those produced by Edison. Not having a physical model to handle, I am forced to engage in "virtual engineering" and, of course, that requires me to use computer modeling software. Sometimes I wish I could reach into my monitor screen and feel the torque on my design's levers. Well, each to his own and let's hope this is the year something comes of it all. 300 years is a long time to be waiting for a solution to Bessler's wheels.Ken Behrendthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111248107623433638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-84641243731795926332015-02-13T23:20:21.958+00:002015-02-13T23:20:21.958+00:00Good luck with your work Ken, I sincerely wish you...Good luck with your work Ken, I sincerely wish you well. For all that we have very different ideas and approaches to this problem, much we share in common. "Reverse engineering anything is a slow and tedious process of trial and error" Yes, don't I know it! A visitor to my studio recently remarked that I was "engineering by feel". I like that observation.John Wortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16741664408072760267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-42637735169323982302015-02-13T15:39:04.519+00:002015-02-13T15:39:04.519+00:00A few days have passed since my reply of 9 Februar...A few days have passed since my reply of 9 February 2015 above and, once again, my latest version of Bessler's wheel failed when carefully tested. It could not keep the center of mass of its weights and levers on the descending side during rotation. The only "good" news that came of this is that I was able to study the motion of the levers during the test and I think I see a possible way to correct for the failure and I'm pursuing that now. I am now 100% certain that I have the correct spring constants that Bessler used on both his 3 and 12 foot diameter wheels. However, I'm still struggling to determine the exact way he attached his springs to the levers. That arrangement is absolutely critical to making his mechanics work properly. You either have it or you don't. Right now I don't! Hopefully, that will change in a few days or so. I will soon be passing the 1100 model mark! Reverse engineering anything is a slow and tedious process of trial and error. You make your best guess as to how something might work, experiment to verify it, and then, assuming failure occurs, you must try to determine why and then try again with a slightly different approach. Eventually, if you're lucky, you will find a solution. I'm hoping to "get lucky" before I reach model #1200!Ken Behrendthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111248107623433638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-48839148582432241802015-02-12T16:38:00.078+00:002015-02-12T16:38:00.078+00:00Being in my early 60's at the moment, 70 still...Being in my early 60's at the moment, 70 still seems a long way off to me. However, I do believe that age is just a number and it's really how carefully you've led your life that counts. Attention to diet, exercise, and intellectual pursuits is, imo, critical to reaching the century mark and still being ambulatory and coherent. A lot of my friends that I grew up with are dead now because they made poor "life choices", but I know people that are decades older than me who I actually enjoy talking with. A few years ago I went out to dinner with a woman that was actually in her late 90's and, aside from a minor hearing problem (she refused to wear a hearing aid) and a few wrinkles, she was just as lively and talkative as some of the people I encountered in college decades ago. Chasing the secret of Bessler's wheels (or any subject for that matter) helps to keep us young and "involved". However, it would be nice to finally get this thing wrapped up with a plausible solution. I'm working on it every day.Ken Behrendthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111248107623433638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-60281607255183012532015-02-12T14:38:42.585+00:002015-02-12T14:38:42.585+00:00Wow! Thank you James, a most splendid salute. Bu...Wow! Thank you James, a most splendid salute. But let's not dwell too much on the 80s and 90s; time enough when we get there (if?)<br /><br />I hope and believe the Eureka moment will be this year and well before this Summer's solstice, although that moment has nothing to do with the pending celebration.<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-28300060613309583602015-02-12T09:30:23.662+00:002015-02-12T09:30:23.662+00:00Albeit belatedly, John, I wish you all good things...Albeit belatedly, John, I wish you all good things leading up to your 71st and, on account of all the festiveness here going-on, ' shall behave myself uncharacteristically. (More or less.)<br /><br />One's 70th is important as it is a saying of goodbye to the very last expiring tendrils of mid-life and, as well, welcoming all too soon one's approaching octogenarianship, itself prelude to that nonagenarian. (Anything further do let's not consider at this moment? When that time arrives finally, we might then ask our good old KB, just what it was like being in his nineties, way back when.)<br /><br />Before that 75th, well before, we all expect, I believe, that glorious EUREKA shout to be hear'd from your pipes, heralding finally the arrival of the great New Age of Infinite Energy. (And, also, lots and lots and lots of crow-eating for the loudly-silent know-it-all, lab coat set! Yes!)<br /><br />CHEERS!<br /><br />James<br /><br />"TIME - Man's most precious coin." - J.M.M.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17802167012893394180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-63665598150461798032015-02-11T22:41:10.328+00:002015-02-11T22:41:10.328+00:00@ John Collins, Well, yes, you are ‘to blame’ and ...@ John Collins, Well, yes, you are ‘to blame’ and you must take responsibility for your actions. That said, it was my free choice to get involved and you are definitely not ‘to blame’ for that. I am happy with my choice, if a little concerned that many believe that a bullet in the head is the likely reward for success in this endeavour. John Wortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16741664408072760267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-72353005911495555312015-02-10T17:11:15.118+00:002015-02-10T17:11:15.118+00:00That is a good find, Jon. I have seen old wooden ...That is a good find, Jon. I have seen old wooden models similar to the boxers and when I was a young we went to Luxembourg and they were making and selling exactly the same toys made of wood. <br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-29760572726726938852015-02-10T16:49:12.991+00:002015-02-10T16:49:12.991+00:00This thought occurred to me last night. I wondere...This thought occurred to me last night. I wondered what Bessler's reaction would have been if someone had provided him with a crystal ball and he had used it to look ahead into the future to see all of the discussion going on over the centuries about his inventions? Would he have been amused at the continuing frustrations of those trying to duplicate his wheels? Would he be saddened that no one had been successful and by doing so finally proved to the world that he was not a liar who had only hoped to reap a fortune from the rich using a fake pm wheel? Would he have regretted that, shortly before his tragic ending, he had not just released the secret so that the wheels could be built freely by any craftsman willing to invest in doing so? Would he have considered his fellow human being to just be too corrupt to receive such a secret? Makes an interesting thing to ponder.Ken Behrendthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111248107623433638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-79612504988552936872015-02-09T23:05:20.890+00:002015-02-09T23:05:20.890+00:00Cool! The fighters are actually mounted on two pl...Cool! The fighters are actually mounted on two platforms, one on top of the other, which slide back and forth with respect to each other as the hand grip is squeezed and then relaxed. That causes the two figures to alternately punch each other. Could it be that the designers of this toy got their inspiration from MT's "toy page"?!Ken Behrendthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111248107623433638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-90590128894433489872015-02-09T22:37:08.802+00:002015-02-09T22:37:08.802+00:00Many many happy returns.
You may want to see this ...Many many happy returns.<br />You may want to see this sprung 'hammer men' toy....<br />Regards<br />Jon<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgZFoqKx244<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763266729968085539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-29804700501108566032015-02-09T19:51:49.810+00:002015-02-09T19:51:49.810+00:00Let's see now. 1680 / 70 = 24. Then if we ta...Let's see now. 1680 / 70 = 24. Then if we take the digits in 24 and multiply them we get 2 x 4 = 8. And the witnesses to Bessler's wheels claimed they could hear 8 weights "lightly" impacting on their descending sides during rotation! No doubt about it, this is an important year for you, John.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I'm once again excited about the latest model wheel I'm working on. I said that there were two springs attached to each lever and I found clues about what their constant values were. However, I was struggling with finding the correct location to attach one of those springs to the drum's interior. Well, last night I again looked at my clues and tried a particular attachment point that had caught my eyes week's ago. I then measured the angles that the spring formed with the lever arm when that lever shifted as it moved along with the drum on the wheel's ascending side. Incredibly, the major angles I measured with a large transparent protractor off of the oversized monitor I use when making wm2d models are found in the DT portraits. There is now a precise match between my model's springs and what the clues indicate. At this point I am only a few steps away from knowing if I've finally found Bessler's design. All I have to do to test the model is connect two of the ascending side adjacent levers together with a single coordinating rope and run the simulation. If the center of mass of the levers and weights stays put on the wheel's descending side as the drum rotates, then this is it! I should know in a few days and, if so, then this would mean that the rediscovery occurred within 24 days of John's 70th birthday! Powerful stuff that numerology. No wonder Bessler used so much of it in his clues.Ken Behrendthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111248107623433638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-65326406109227435132015-02-09T06:58:29.771+00:002015-02-09T06:58:29.771+00:00Thank you, RC
dziękuję
JCThank you, RC <br /><br />dziękuję <br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-55259210154407349872015-02-08T21:05:31.146+00:002015-02-08T21:05:31.146+00:00Gratuluję 70-tych urodzin
pozdrawiam z Polski ...Gratuluję 70-tych urodzin <br /><br />pozdrawiam z Polski R.C.kołodziążhttp://www.cheops.org.pl/index.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-22830667241514897802015-02-07T17:37:29.312+00:002015-02-07T17:37:29.312+00:00Glad to know I'm to blame, John! ;-)
Happy c...Glad to know I'm to blame, John! ;-)<br /><br />Happy coincidence Uneqk, Must be thousands of wheels by now, and I've seen some of those fangle dangl ones, even made some!<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-28929581834621251802015-02-07T08:26:29.255+00:002015-02-07T08:26:29.255+00:00Hi john,
Hope you had a Fantastic Birthday, I did...Hi john, <br />Hope you had a Fantastic Birthday, I didn't realise but my sister and my son share your birthday 🎂 as well.<br />I was just wondering how many so called Bessler wheels have been made over the years, could you imagine what sort of fangle dangle designs people have come up with?<br />Can pictures be added to the website.Uneqkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00809723687096913866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-16038240343422561802015-02-06T23:44:55.555+00:002015-02-06T23:44:55.555+00:00Happy 70th Birthday John!
I didn't read your ...Happy 70th Birthday John!<br /><br />I didn't read your Blogg yesterday, for me it was just another day in the workshop working on the templates for my 2015 Bessler 'wheel' attempt. I often wonder what I would be doing in my life now if you hadn't written the book PMAAMS? and correctly pointed out in it that the supposed proof that Bessler was a fraud is itself impossible. John Wortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16741664408072760267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-39270143579157994012015-02-06T18:38:46.162+00:002015-02-06T18:38:46.162+00:00Thanks Ken, brilliant! I'd prefer 24 days to ...Thanks Ken, brilliant! I'd prefer 24 days to 24 months if possible, I'll see what I can do. lol<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-50093428166066186452015-02-06T16:29:25.147+00:002015-02-06T16:29:25.147+00:00I just found an important code for you, John. You&...I just found an important code for you, John. You're now 70 and Bessler was born in 1680. Now that's significant and here's why. If you divide 1680 by 70, you get exactly 24! This indicates to me that you should see the solution to the Bessler wheel mystery within the next 24 days or months. Let's hope it's the next 24 days!Ken Behrendthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111248107623433638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-55533038803601766572015-02-06T06:55:09.683+00:002015-02-06T06:55:09.683+00:00Thanks for all your kind words, guys - and a happy...Thanks for all your kind words, guys - and a happy birthday to alaskabob; sorry I had forgotten!<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-1952371166235875072015-02-06T06:53:05.471+00:002015-02-06T06:53:05.471+00:00I'm around a quarter of the age of Bessler'...I'm around a quarter of the age of Bessler's mystery - yes that is surprising, it makes Bessler's time seem closer when compared to my 70 years. My father was 55 when I was born, relatively old, and was born in 1890, which is even closer to Bessler's time.<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-67281994323181537512015-02-06T03:00:22.765+00:002015-02-06T03:00:22.765+00:00 Happy birthday. Happy birthday.vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478870625877776990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-13749444309248490862015-02-05T23:02:59.047+00:002015-02-05T23:02:59.047+00:00Only a couple of minutes late, but... Many happy r...Only a couple of minutes late, but... Many happy returns John. And may this be a glorious year!Herberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994365250191722488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-79792575858492871312015-02-05T22:46:49.874+00:002015-02-05T22:46:49.874+00:00Happy birthday John!Happy birthday John!arktos1001https://www.blogger.com/profile/03384693609032640915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-60849380681612040102015-02-05T20:37:16.182+00:002015-02-05T20:37:16.182+00:00Happy Birthday John (and Alaskabobb)!
You'r...Happy Birthday John (and Alaskabobb)! <br /><br />You're around a quarter of the age of Bessler's mystery itself (that makes you seem ANCIENT eh?)!<br /><br />Thanks again for returning his works to the world - i'd never have heard of him if not for your invaluable accomplishments.<br /><br />Now best foot forward, cross that finish line dammit! Vibratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175744698320817417noreply@blogger.com