tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post423216967778048521..comments2024-03-27T11:55:27.988+00:00Comments on Bessler's Wheel and the Orffyreus Code: Bessler's use of the circumpunct in his pseudonym, Orffyreus.John Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comBlogger148125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-52169732517394967932013-05-16T05:29:02.555+01:002013-05-16T05:29:02.555+01:00After studying theology for a while Bessler probab...After studying theology for a while Bessler probably thought he had all of the answers as to what 'real' Christianity meant and how it should be practiced. Of course after announcing his 'revelations' he would have immediately turned himself into a heretic and a persona non grata as far as his local Christian congregations were concerned. He probably was a devout Chistian but an outcast forced to practice his own brand of the faith by himself. I'm even surprised that he did not go off and start his own church rather than going into medicine and mechanics. But if he had we would not be here now!<br /><br />I'm not convinced the AP 'wheel' is a mechanical wheel at all but I do agree that it might have something to do with a 'triune' god that some Christians (like Catholics) believe in. Others see the Bible verses suggesting 'that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all equal and ONE' as only meaning that there are three separate divine beings with equal powers that are in agreement on their mission on Earth and working together as a team to accomplish it. If Bessler believed in a 'triune' god then he probably started out as a Catholic and was one through adolesence until he began his own study of religion. I don't doubt his sincerity or honesty as far as religion was concerned.<br /><br />mikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-11513691813468629132013-05-16T04:15:22.392+01:002013-05-16T04:15:22.392+01:00Maybe if I keep posting, this guy will give up.
V...Maybe if I keep posting, this guy will give up.<br /><br />Vertical motion and horizontal motion have no effect on each other in a body in motion; they are independent motions.Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-46254720213422894262013-05-15T23:25:36.931+01:002013-05-15T23:25:36.931+01:00The Apologia wheel also has a total of six segment...The Apologia wheel also has a total of six segments. Would that mean it represents the fallen man, too?Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-70955920834747125892013-05-15T22:33:30.040+01:002013-05-15T22:33:30.040+01:00Welcome back John. I vote for a new topic tomorrow...Welcome back John. I vote for a new topic tomorrow. The circumpunct has sputtered out.Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-12235641866182304472013-05-15T16:53:46.038+01:002013-05-15T16:53:46.038+01:00Hi, good to be back! Mimi, take a look at thisd pa...Hi, good to be back! Mimi, take a look at thisd page from one of my websites. It gives my findings reference thew AP wheel. http://www.theorffyreuscode.com/html/apologia_wheel.html<br /><br /><a href="http://www.theorffyreuscode.com/html/apologia_wheel.html" rel="nofollow"></a>John Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-87792997634669318452013-05-15T15:21:18.666+01:002013-05-15T15:21:18.666+01:00Maybe you should shave your chest hair.Maybe you should shave your chest hair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-13709485244202408542013-05-15T15:18:46.407+01:002013-05-15T15:18:46.407+01:00Thanks Mimi, not sure how I missed that. So we are...Thanks Mimi, not sure how I missed that. So we are at a 5:1 ratio. Well there's that 5 again. I still believe the AP wheel represents the basic design of the prime mover (a 2:1 ratio). I'm not implying 2 dropping while 1 rises, but something different. A 5:1 ratio prime mover has more components. I will continue to investigate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-53000981611496194422013-05-15T15:07:11.690+01:002013-05-15T15:07:11.690+01:00Agreed, anyone that wanted to post with their acco...Agreed, anyone that wanted to post with their account could and did.Zoelrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243774767540915176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-80779864093638209862013-05-15T09:53:14.845+01:002013-05-15T09:53:14.845+01:00I measure the angles as 20-100, not as 30-90.I measure the angles as 20-100, not as 30-90.Miminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-81570825548559281222013-05-15T07:52:58.258+01:002013-05-15T07:52:58.258+01:00Oh good grief,..we're being invaded by pedlers...Oh good grief,..we're being invaded by pedlers!<br />John,..please bring back the password!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12409874937563133478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-22039966475178139822013-05-14T21:05:34.960+01:002013-05-14T21:05:34.960+01:00Well it was a bust.Well it was a bust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-16566115811644427762013-05-14T20:09:13.190+01:002013-05-14T20:09:13.190+01:00 Scientology was made up by a science fiction writ... Scientology was made up by a science fiction writer and is not true.<br />That Joahnn Bessler invented time travel machines and perpetual motion machines is true, that is not fictional .Ealadhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244955937573785511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-29126095272266338732013-05-14T17:50:34.806+01:002013-05-14T17:50:34.806+01:00Bell bottoms. That was an embarrassing time in my ...Bell bottoms. That was an embarrassing time in my life that I would rather not think about. I do like the Austin Powers reference though. Well, I'm off to do some shagging baby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-56777914677378184132013-05-14T17:46:17.896+01:002013-05-14T17:46:17.896+01:00The Trinity teaches us that the Father, the Son, a...The Trinity teaches us that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all equal and ONE.<br /><br />Just conjecture here, but the 3 rays of the AP wheel represent the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, all pointing inwards toward the ONE. Interestingly, the angle of each ray is 30 degrees and not some other measurement as shown in the multitude of Trinity symbols. This leaves each blackened section with an angle measurement of 90 degrees. A 3:1 ratio. 3 being the 1. Is this ratio significant in the design of the wheel or possibly the prime mover?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-14810270082039506682013-05-14T17:15:24.974+01:002013-05-14T17:15:24.974+01:00You sound like the ghosts from a famous Charles Di...You sound like the ghosts from a famous Charles Dickens story ... and Austin Powers all rolled into one . Are you wearing chains AND bell-bottoms by chance ?<br />CWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-32700736937905714612013-05-14T14:35:24.039+01:002013-05-14T14:35:24.039+01:00CW said "Inconsistent is not advancing in you...CW said "Inconsistent is not advancing in your thoughts about how this thing works . You , and people like you act like someone owes you something . As if you can criticize someone who doesn't put their ideas out there for your drooling critique . And you don't even have the balls to put a name to your comments . You can think " that was me " or " I told him " but after all no one knows who you are . You are a coward ."<br /><br />Wrong O, this is all about payback for your childish behavior here and at BW. We want nothing other than to point out the errors of your ways. We are your past, present, and future conscious.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-304619200473445432013-05-14T14:27:01.405+01:002013-05-14T14:27:01.405+01:00CW said "When I read AP I noticed four outsta...CW said "When I read AP I noticed four outstanding No-No's of basic Christian Taboo...I am not saying that these things point to fraud but they are suspect IMO to anyone who knows about the Bible".<br /><br />You are correct. You didn't say Bessler was a fraud. You said his actions were suspect. Hints of fraud shall based on the evidence. Apparently enough for you to tell your daughter that "Perpetual motion , if not impossible is improbable by human hands . Chances are no one will discover it".<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-33900773267633565822013-05-14T14:15:37.133+01:002013-05-14T14:15:37.133+01:00If Ealadha is right, Bessler was a time traveler a...If Ealadha is right, Bessler was a time traveler and possibly a galactic explorer. Who knows, maybe is Xenu the great and powerful Emperor of the Scientology Empire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-78461623659856627332013-05-14T04:06:00.170+01:002013-05-14T04:06:00.170+01:00Thank you, Arktos. Yes, that's the image that ...Thank you, Arktos. Yes, that's the image that I'm referring to.<br />Utrecht University (Netherlands) has a copy of Das triumphirende available for on-line viewing. The page in question is here:<br />http://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-206158&lan=en#page//66/97/18/66971890351288016757680622177258626039.jpg/mode/1upMarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12256154299600929098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-12792383315091882712013-05-14T00:56:16.471+01:002013-05-14T00:56:16.471+01:00I wouldn't jump to the conclusion it made it l...I wouldn't jump to the conclusion it made it less likely he was pulling a fast one. He had some serious issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-37933766610074774472013-05-13T22:13:19.682+01:002013-05-13T22:13:19.682+01:00Good point. After reading back thru the recent po...Good point. After reading back thru the recent posts discussing his religion I was thinking the same thing. He spent time with monks and at least one Rabbi so who knows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-21661488032199536232013-05-13T21:56:36.564+01:002013-05-13T21:56:36.564+01:00I've always been impressed by Bessler's Ch...I've always been impressed by Bessler's Christian religiosity which would seem to make it less likely that he would be hoaxing his wheels. But, I am puzzled as to exactly what denomination he belonged. Was he Catholic, Protestant, Lutheran, or some new sect floating around Europe at the time?<br /><br />mike Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-82350434549634288362013-05-13T08:01:52.852+01:002013-05-13T08:01:52.852+01:00BTW , as far as me saying Bessler could have been ...BTW , as far as me saying Bessler could have been a fraud ...didn't happen . I was just pointing out my impression of some things that were in the AP that seemed suspect to me .<br />CWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-90311196268976104722013-05-13T07:56:34.711+01:002013-05-13T07:56:34.711+01:00Inconsistent is not advancing in your thoughts abo...Inconsistent is not advancing in your thoughts about how this thing works . You , and people like you act like someone owes you something . As if you can criticize someone who doesn't put their ideas out there for your drooling critique . And you don't even have the balls to put a name to your comments . You can think " that was me " or " I told him " but after all no one knows who you are . You are a coward .<br />CWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-19082967581615567462013-05-13T04:17:10.690+01:002013-05-13T04:17:10.690+01:00The "circle-within-a-circle" monogram is...The "circle-within-a-circle" monogram is on (original) page 136 of "Das Triumphirende..." (Page 143 of John's republication of it).Arktosnoreply@blogger.com