tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post6420301055907398863..comments2024-03-27T11:55:27.988+00:00Comments on Bessler's Wheel and the Orffyreus Code: Gravity is constant and it makes things drop.John Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-77151277946159618012013-05-06T10:50:51.869+01:002013-05-06T10:50:51.869+01:00I just stumbled upon this:
...something all perp...I just stumbled upon this: <br /><br />...something all perpetual motionists have instinctively known for hundreds of years. The movement of the weights was due to the effect of gravity. <br /><br />But never forget the effect of inertia.<br />Properties of matter are gravity _and_ inertia.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-18749212741604877662013-03-04T15:56:19.251+00:002013-03-04T15:56:19.251+00:00As long as the focus is on you, intelligent conver...As long as the focus is on you, intelligent conversation has indeed been illiminated. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-37163326845613253362013-03-04T13:57:16.711+00:002013-03-04T13:57:16.711+00:00Hi Stephen, the above post is sort of an inside ...Hi Stephen, the above post is sort of an inside joke that started in the joke section at besslerwheel.com. I am just tired of Ealadaha's bizarre behavior. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-81914564964465907612013-03-04T04:27:16.344+00:002013-03-04T04:27:16.344+00:00John,..The only time this blog had any real intell...John,..The only time this blog had any real intelligent focus was when you illiminated the anon option.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12409874937563133478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-61280376436071836492013-03-04T00:08:16.829+00:002013-03-04T00:08:16.829+00:00John, maybe I'm guilty of wishful thinking, bu...John, maybe I'm guilty of wishful thinking, but I think I've found two clues in the windmill plans.<br />Strange that it's two again though.<br />In the top right drawing, above the low brick wall, the horizontal noggins look like they could represent an off-set axle.<br />I know even now this is normal building practice, but an off-set axle is a feature of the rubber band heat engine I based my idea on.<br />The other possible clue is in the bottom right drawing, above the circle, (which may point to the wheel itself, as it doesn't appear to depict anything else in the drawings, unless of course, it's on a different scale) some of the diagonal braces look like the extended X's of the tong mechanism.<br />Again normal building practice, but not as this appears to be a top view.<br /><br />Anyway, maybe wishful thinking/ over-active imagination.<br /><br />Stephen Burke <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-14116351798465567722013-03-03T14:37:31.518+00:002013-03-03T14:37:31.518+00:00Anon,
please, I'm suggesting other sites so th...Anon,<br />please, I'm suggesting other sites so that people can have a time out, chill, and maybe pick up a couple of mechanical ideas for their projects, what ever they may be.<br />Is that not better than squabbling?<br />Check Bob Potts' site it's very relaxing, and contains some really clever mechanisms.<br />One even looks like the Apologia wheel.<br /><br />Stephen BurkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-15041607907006174392013-03-03T09:41:24.431+00:002013-03-03T09:41:24.431+00:00 Stephen
I have the soil for it , i have not built... Stephen<br />I have the soil for it , i have not built it yet, I was not well during the winter , I am going onto a macrobiotic diet and I need to cook rice and beans that can take up to an hour and a half to cook , i have looked up home made wood gas stoves and rocket stoves on the internet and I will be building one of them , so thanks for the link , also I have downloaded the FEMA wood gasifier plans .<br /><br /><br />Ealadhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244955937573785511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-20649945776969277552013-03-03T03:21:05.778+00:002013-03-03T03:21:05.778+00:00Here's a silly little thought to lighten the m...Here's a silly little thought to lighten the mood.<br />The apple falls from the tree, stays there, rots down, the seeds left behind germinate,<br />another tree grows, the new apples fall, and so on.<br />If this continues without any interference, is this perpetual motion?<br /><br />Stephen BurkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-88417553875881106972013-03-03T03:07:19.634+00:002013-03-03T03:07:19.634+00:00Ealadha, I think in a past lifetime, you were a...Ealadha, I think in a past lifetime, you were a gay owl!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-30168611241416040572013-03-03T01:42:16.041+00:002013-03-03T01:42:16.041+00:00Ealadha, how's your stove building going?
Did ...Ealadha, how's your stove building going?<br />Did you check out the FEMA wood gasifier plans?<br />Maybe it's not what you're looking for. <br />Try checking rocket stoves and homemade wood gas stoves.<br />They're easy to make from old tin cans, and are really economical on fuel.<br /><br />Stephen BurkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-70176275739580213732013-03-03T00:59:43.168+00:002013-03-03T00:59:43.168+00:00 I got the idea from Bessler to play a mind game f... I got the idea from Bessler to play a mind game for the 300th anniversary .<br />I worked very hard at it . It should really be viewed as a work of art .<br />Ealadhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244955937573785511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-85654538501403595672013-03-03T00:34:25.140+00:002013-03-03T00:34:25.140+00:00Is there a name for your syndrome?Is there a name for your syndrome?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-88110942475967067532013-03-02T23:58:33.269+00:002013-03-02T23:58:33.269+00:00That I am Johann Bessler .That I am Johann Bessler .Ealadhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244955937573785511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-67014170958975734662013-03-02T23:48:18.661+00:002013-03-02T23:48:18.661+00:00I read that post and I got to thinking...........I read that post and I got to thinking...........Ealadhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244955937573785511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-2106626728082148852013-03-02T23:47:08.196+00:002013-03-02T23:47:08.196+00:00I remember when i was on the BW forum maybe nearly...I remember when i was on the BW forum maybe nearly 2 years ago and a poster , i forget who , said in one of the posts "if only bessler was here to guide us" , I read post and I got to thinking ...........<br /><br />Ealadhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244955937573785511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-57994034427553352712013-03-02T20:36:45.258+00:002013-03-02T20:36:45.258+00:00Trevor,
when the so ad so's get you down, chec...Trevor,<br />when the so ad so's get you down, check out these two sites.<br /><br />Mechanical Principles (1930) by Ralph Steiner<br /><br />Bob Potts 1996-2005b. mov<br /><br />Fascinating, beautiful, maybe even inspirational.<br />I like them anyway, I think you might too.<br /><br />Stephen BurkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-61401036328184876782013-03-02T19:35:02.372+00:002013-03-02T19:35:02.372+00:00Charly2,
I always think of treadle operated machi...Charly2,<br /><br />I always think of treadle operated machinery, and how once you get the heavy fly-wheel turning, all that is needed to keep the thing running is a gentle rhythmic action on the pedal. Of course the question is, how do you make the machine "treadle" itself?<br />I've been checking out grasshopper wooden clock escape mechanisms, maybe something there will fit in with your ideas.<br />Even if it doesn't it's amusing to watch.<br /><br />Stephen BurkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-53047765728307943732013-03-02T19:15:53.030+00:002013-03-02T19:15:53.030+00:00Bessler's wheel will prove itself and it won&#...Bessler's wheel will prove itself and it won't require non-Newtonina Laws. Watch ths space.<br /><br />JC<br /><br /><br />John Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-44528202111807174412013-03-02T16:12:26.668+00:002013-03-02T16:12:26.668+00:00Bessler wheel employed a method not included in Ne...Bessler wheel employed a method not included in Newton Laws, if you want to rise an apple with another identical apple you will not get perpetual motion, so you are right a Newtonian Bessler Wheel is impossible.<br />But you will need to play a different game with the apple in order to avoid the Newon "spell". It will look like a gravity wheel but it will not be. <br />There is one way, I'm working on it.<br /><br />Charly2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-29762389520756382402013-03-02T13:19:51.630+00:002013-03-02T13:19:51.630+00:00You all should have listened in school and then yo...You all should have listened in school and then you would know that .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-18393607131356684832013-03-02T13:16:34.886+00:002013-03-02T13:16:34.886+00:00 The Bessler wheel has been proven to be impossibl... The Bessler wheel has been proven to be impossible .<br />Newton proved that when an apple falls from a tree to the ground it stays on the ground .<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-27349111012396552952013-03-02T12:43:04.434+00:002013-03-02T12:43:04.434+00:00John, just a little musing anyway.
I notice that n...John, just a little musing anyway.<br />I notice that none of the loudmouths have come up with a counter proposal to my idea yet. May be it's because there "hero" T.G. came up with the same one, as I was quick to point out.<br />If you are using the lazy tong idea, I think it may have been made in a box type design, like the old fashioned wooden clothes horses, this would lessen any twisting, and may explain the use of a cylindrical weight, which would be across two extended arms, ladder rung fashion.<br />To make room for this, the spring spokes need only to be fixed to the side faces of the rim, possibly onto pegs, Silver Cross pram style, I bet the youngsters don't know what that is! They can always Google it.<br /><br />Stephen Burke Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-35480545931222713412013-03-02T09:38:11.052+00:002013-03-02T09:38:11.052+00:00Latest update: Part 1 of my project "Orffyreu...Latest update: Part 1 of my project "Orffyreus Codes revealed" (the decoding of Besslers documents) are finnished. Over 1 hour of documentation-video produced with a final conclusion on how and what he was hiding! Some marvelous resaults appeared. I am now in dialog with a video/sound studio for recording the first semi-professional video-trailer. This will be used as an "door-opener" for further publishing/documentaries etc. I am also in some negotiations about a buildingproject of what was revealed. You will soon find out if Bessler was hiding and coding a true or false mechanism in his papers ;-) The trailer will not reveal the mechanism itself, but I guess it will go as far as to reveal the real secret of Ernst Elias (the added names) and some other stuff that will tease the curiosity of the viewer. I will let you know when there are other news about the progress. Øysteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458700332467872501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-5393626784270504512013-03-02T07:08:02.859+00:002013-03-02T07:08:02.859+00:00It's possible Stephen, but in my opinion not l...It's possible Stephen, but in my opinion not likely. Bessler was married so he had to move wife and child to the new home, but he didn't trust anyone with his secret, not even his wife. He had no assistant other than his brother, and he was only available to help out with the big examinations/demonstrations. True he moght have kept the weights, but the axles were easily obtained, as was the rest of the wood - plenty of suitable trees around. Safer to break it up and move on. Nice idea though.<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-69318152439273288152013-03-01T23:08:07.709+00:002013-03-01T23:08:07.709+00:00John, going back a few articles, to the wheel smas...John, going back a few articles, to the wheel smashing one, a thought crossed my mind.<br />As Bessler obviously had carpentry skills, and adept at making wheels.<br />Would he not use the wood from the wheel to make a small hand cart?<br />The metal parts could have been dismantled, and stored on board, being as they were harder to make, a stout padlock securing the lid, while Bessler, and possibly an assistant slept underneath, taking turns on watch, even with tools, provisions, and a canvas drape to use over the cart to turn it into tent, the whole thing may have weighed 150lbs. or so, not too much for two men to pull, why, there was even a ready made axle!<br /><br />Just a little musing.<br /><br />Stephen Burke Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com