tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post8336112702727414519..comments2024-03-27T11:55:27.988+00:00Comments on Bessler's Wheel and the Orffyreus Code: Das Triumphirende PERPETUUM MOBILE ORFFYREANUM 1719 FOR SALE.John Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-64774339556718850192010-10-12T07:42:45.633+01:002010-10-12T07:42:45.633+01:00Please don't resort to fisticuffs on my behalf...Please don't resort to fisticuffs on my behalf,I'm not worth it.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-49208168225584979032010-10-12T05:24:07.777+01:002010-10-12T05:24:07.777+01:00What makes anon think we are one and the same? It&...What makes anon think we are one and the same? It's just like mindedness, dear..bessler followers need to be like minded and that is important...Because the bessler wheel design is one and the same...there is only one success design....<br /><br />This is the fist and the basic requirement that needs to be understood in this great quest...Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-14928421824175499072010-10-11T14:24:07.345+01:002010-10-11T14:24:07.345+01:00Nope!Any person however naive,if they are positive...Nope!Any person however naive,if they are positive,inspire hope to those who wanting it.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-25287120311844460002010-10-11T12:54:29.936+01:002010-10-11T12:54:29.936+01:00Is Suresh and Trevor same person ? :DIs Suresh and Trevor same person ? :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-50363441114506658072010-10-11T10:36:04.501+01:002010-10-11T10:36:04.501+01:00Agreed Trevor but how long...we are all very anxio...Agreed Trevor but how long...we are all very anxious...you are near the truth which I can understand....we have waited too long...nearly 300 years and now amazed at your progress...I could tell you about mine but actually I am too busy with my job and haven't even thought of when to start the wheel work.. <br /><br />Atleast, keep explaining little bit about bessler's simple clues...others working on it could get some guidance...many are off the right course and that includes the eminent ones...Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-35798459350147469222010-10-11T09:48:43.082+01:002010-10-11T09:48:43.082+01:00Revelation comes in a flash,but to build a concept...Revelation comes in a flash,but to build a conception takes a little longer.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-46551266359623723252010-10-11T05:26:42.023+01:002010-10-11T05:26:42.023+01:00I am not very sure what the above quote means..but...I am not very sure what the above quote means..but all I can make out is that Trevor's description of bessler's clues is far better than anyone else's. It could also mean that he is much more closer to the truth than anyone else at the moment..He needs to be encouraged and supported..<br /><br />But, frankly speaking, let me also share this with you that I have a feeling that Trevor is also stuck somewhere..otherwise,what could be the reason for the delay..<br /><br />The internal mechanism is so simple that once someone gets wind of it he won't need any further ideas or help and will straightaway get to the point..Note the word 'artful arrangement' by Karl..it really has to beautiful inside..Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-40162516517988271122010-10-10T21:22:16.523+01:002010-10-10T21:22:16.523+01:00ante victoriam ne canas triumphumante victoriam ne canas triumphumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-58814806599799367362010-10-10T17:27:17.133+01:002010-10-10T17:27:17.133+01:00I agree with you Trevor...we do get intuitions, to...I agree with you Trevor...we do get intuitions, too about the forthcoming events...so far the updates given by you from time to time are fantastic and match with Bessler's simple clues...But ultimately it is the destiny that decides who will achieve what...we should work hard and believe in destiny...Even though Bessler came up with the wheel he couldn't live to enjoy it's fruit...Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-33073890401841605422010-10-10T15:34:11.941+01:002010-10-10T15:34:11.941+01:00What can I say,...if it wasn't for the sceptic...What can I say,...if it wasn't for the sceptics victory would not be as sweet.<br />It's amazing how the sub-consciuos mind can tell you you have the answer before it even materialises.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-48235618203783759812010-10-10T14:43:08.755+01:002010-10-10T14:43:08.755+01:00Trevor !
Don't count your chickens before the...Trevor !<br /><br />Don't count your chickens before they are hatched.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-2834304153745813862010-10-10T04:29:44.711+01:002010-10-10T04:29:44.711+01:00You are being very exact, Trevor...simplicity is t...You are being very exact, Trevor...simplicity is the name of the game...just simple bessler's clues and the poem is all that is reqd..and the karl's statement...<br /><br />We actually get misguided most of the time... very pathetically sometimes...Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-5360508608276965122010-10-09T20:52:37.290+01:002010-10-09T20:52:37.290+01:00Yes indeed it is very simple,so simple I could kic...Yes indeed it is very simple,so simple I could kick myself.I did brush over the principle a year ago but I missed it because I did not include one vital property in physics which made it possible,so I shelved it.<br />What I can say at this stage is that every thing that happens in the wheel is caused by gravity,the drive and the priming.<br />Stick to Besslers clues and stick to the poem.Don't listen to anyone else because that can cause a mental block.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-53027784399991977502010-10-09T19:14:33.022+01:002010-10-09T19:14:33.022+01:00Andre Sir..yes..I too agree...it has been overlook...Andre Sir..yes..I too agree...it has been overlooked, of course...Bessler was correct, The Landgrave was also very much right...it is extremely simple...about 8 weights actively participate and provide the drive..or the motive power...the arrangement of the lever-weight is such...the lever-weight designing is also unique..<br />gravity keeps pulling them down...one by one comes down and completes the circle around the axle...the weight on the right side lifts the one on the left...seesaw action...unceasing movement..<br /><br />Trevor is on the right track…Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-36321593596561323432010-10-09T18:38:55.784+01:002010-10-09T18:38:55.784+01:00Trevor, that's great and very exiting to hear!...Trevor, that's great and very exiting to hear! You sure make me extremely curious to your design. Is it, indeed, as simple as the Landgraf said it is? If it is truly simple, we must have overlooked quite a few things all these years, me included. Can't wait to hear more about it!Andrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13706263884645654930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-38646480482587990732010-10-09T09:29:48.467+01:002010-10-09T09:29:48.467+01:00Really, it's very nice to hear such things fro...Really, it's very nice to hear such things from you Trevor...I think you are so much on the right track....I also understand that just some prime pruning is reqd..your progress is highly appreciable...it is indeed being proved that gravity can be used or converted..as insisted by JC sir...Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-84587207142489489732010-10-09T08:44:07.287+01:002010-10-09T08:44:07.287+01:00I have got to the point where it simply moves itse...I have got to the point where it simply moves itself. Timing is not critical,it works by simple placement of weights at the correct point,it times itself.<br />Things have progressed past the need for centrifugal force or the need for oscilation or swinging of weights,so there is no need for precise timing or critical positioning of weights,just as Bessler said,thank goodness.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-65118751250466716142010-10-09T07:21:51.687+01:002010-10-09T07:21:51.687+01:00Thanks..Trevor...that means we are going to have a...Thanks..Trevor...that means we are going to have a good future after the wheel arrives...<br />Are you employing any timing device???Andre sir had insisted that timing would be a nightmare..<br /><br />I feel that once you are very sure you must make the big announcement...you have been struggling since very long, aren't you??? Our world deserves the wheel now...Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-32896577374476227052010-10-08T22:25:32.897+01:002010-10-08T22:25:32.897+01:00Suresh,..yes I now know his secret and I can defin...Suresh,..yes I now know his secret and I can definitely have a working wheel soon.I now know what he meant when he said,"If you can't work out how to lift one pound with 4 ounces then your work will be in vain."<br />Don't bother with the bi-idierectional wheel, it just complicates the job.Besides Bessler only did it to prove a point.If you want a reverse direction just take the drive from the rear.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-3763448354196159282010-10-08T21:26:21.685+01:002010-10-08T21:26:21.685+01:00Are you through, Trevor, really??? Is it rotating ...Are you through, Trevor, really??? Is it rotating as it should??? Try to give us more hints or clues without giving away everything so that we are very sure what you are saying..I am planning to start by the end of this year if everything goes well...<br /><br />I am going to employ 8 weights and use springs only to speed up the swings..no timing device...I couldn't work out the two directional movement yet but I feel I have a good knowledge of the unidirectional wheel...Bessler really was very genuine, after all...Sureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-64525710734621486472010-10-08T06:48:39.053+01:002010-10-08T06:48:39.053+01:00Any day now guys,...but I think I should hold back...Any day now guys,...but I think I should hold back the announcement of a working wheel in case it spoils the charm of the mystery of the undiscovered wheel principle for 298 years.I think I must wait for John to retire from the quest.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-88727461787767901562010-10-07T18:21:59.335+01:002010-10-07T18:21:59.335+01:00Is Bessler religion? Because one say " I beli...Is Bessler religion? Because one say " I believe " and another say " I do not believe"<br /><br />Bessler is part of wonderful and same time cruel history. Besslers literature for me is like a ticket to the time-machine.<br /><br />Besslers wheel is not only wheel. It is hope of better future, and whiteout hope, the life is only vain. It is not important do you achieve it or not. <br /><br />I learn this from my daughter’s film ratatouille. I find that it fits well for person who criticise John and other Bessler´s wheeler dealer. <br /><br />“”In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talents, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new; an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking, is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook". But I realize — only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere. It is difficult to imagine more humble origins than those of the genius now cooking at Gusteau's, who is, in this critic's opinion, nothing less than the finest chef in France. I will be returning to Gusteau's soon, hungry for more.””<br /><br />John, unfortunately Besslers book is too expensive for me but I hope it will find another good home as it have now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-83873419609796411052010-10-06T09:42:42.163+01:002010-10-06T09:42:42.163+01:00John, I wish to reassure you that if I for instanc...John, I wish to reassure you that if I for instance happen to be the one that succeeds,I will presonally make sure that you are handsomly rewarded for your dedication.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-57267014572596776792010-10-06T07:08:53.642+01:002010-10-06T07:08:53.642+01:00I,understand that some people can't swallow th...I,understand that some people can't swallow the<br />fact,that person (Bessler),from deep Bohemian forest,was able to invent gravity workhorse.<br />And my advice to those disclaimer's .<br />Don't worry about him,and believe me,it is not good for your stomach.vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478870625877776990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-69177285485271892392010-10-06T06:34:59.795+01:002010-10-06T06:34:59.795+01:00Thagre? I'm not going to rehash the evidence ...Thagre? I'm not going to rehash the evidence that Bessler was not a fraud- you're entitled to your opinion.<br /><br />As for me being a fraud because, as you say I "never start working on your wheel, there is always something holding you back, holiday, to much stuff to work and working on your books". Those reported events which prevent me working on my wheel are temporary hold ups in a long period of consistent research and construction. I have made more non-working wheels than you have had hot dinners (that's hyperbole)and just because I sometimes say I can't work on my wheel for a particular reason it is because it's true and people are always hassling me to know how I'm getting on and when will it be finished etc etc.<br /><br />So now I say very little about what I'm doing. Just for the record though I am currently working on my wheel using new materials in a reorganised workshop and its great!<br /><br />I'm pleased that you don't wish to make me angry and I should add that you may think me old but I'm not that old and I still have ambitions and hope to finish my own wheel and have it working before anyone else - and I will finish my book and make a documentary too!<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.com