tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post903356571979622635..comments2024-03-27T11:55:27.988+00:00Comments on Bessler's Wheel and the Orffyreus Code: Update - and problems encountered along the wayJohn Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-25572700535471755212013-06-07T01:39:15.296+01:002013-06-07T01:39:15.296+01:00Basically we are talking symmetry restoration . I ...Basically we are talking symmetry restoration . I can name that tune in a little over 1/2 turn . How about you ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-34290901745001523622013-06-06T20:05:25.904+01:002013-06-06T20:05:25.904+01:00OK, give me a while, maybe tomorrow.
OK, give me a while, maybe tomorrow.<br /><br />STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-39318334646344449542013-06-06T20:03:12.257+01:002013-06-06T20:03:12.257+01:00John,
I'm scratching my head again, are you sc...John,<br />I'm scratching my head again, are you scratching yours because because of Chris' cryptic post, or did you get us mixed up?<br />Anyway, if the cylindrical weights are hollow, but<br />filled with many pieces of lead (shot), they would produce a more effective dead blow.STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-15900778761780896292013-06-06T19:48:39.343+01:002013-06-06T19:48:39.343+01:00A drawing would be handy, Stevo?
JCA drawing would be handy, Stevo?<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-69101301837126416332013-06-06T18:26:03.674+01:002013-06-06T18:26:03.674+01:00Nice one Chris :-) More head scratching!
JCNice one Chris :-) More head scratching!<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-31209496992611804052013-06-06T16:06:21.420+01:002013-06-06T16:06:21.420+01:00Here we go, like it or lump it!
Take one side of y...Here we go, like it or lump it!<br />Take one side of your wheel, and fix the one beam across the diameter.<br />Fix the axle to the centre, and place on the supports, in the bearings.<br />One free spinning wheel.<br />Take a hammer in each hand,and knock the top r.h. side of the beam anti-clockwise,<br />while simultaneously knocking the bottom l.h. side in the same direction.<br />One spinning wheel. That's the principle behind my thinking.<br />Take your R shaped springs, that you prepared earlier, and fix them to the spot on the beam that you struck with the hammers.<br />Don't forget to invert the bottom one!<br />Take your weights, and fix them to the free side of the R springs, they now move like grandma's old wooden laundry tongs, knocking the sides of the beam like a movie clapper board. Connect the two weights together with a cord, to ensure simultaneous knocking, using pulleys to divert the cords past the axle, and to change the direction of the weights movements, pantograph style.<br />Now, extend the axle, and fit two cam lobes, to lift one "stamper beam".<br />Give the wheel a push start, and when the cam lobe contacts the stamper lobe, the wheel will pause slightly, but the spring mounted weights will continue on their own momentum, and hit the side of the beam, knocking it round again. STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-67891729643199779492013-06-06T15:35:26.962+01:002013-06-06T15:35:26.962+01:00John ,
It took me a while but I have an answer to ...John ,<br />It took me a while but I have an answer to your question of whether or not there were two opposed mechanisms in the Bessler wheel . But since I have said so much without saying anything at all I will leave it at that , accordingly .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-45651061592361422472013-06-06T12:50:14.067+01:002013-06-06T12:50:14.067+01:00Yes John,
I must check my book first!
I've don...Yes John,<br />I must check my book first!<br />I've done some head scratching on a one beam wonder, I made sure I didn't use my index fingers, so I'll have a least two splinter free ones to type with :-D<br />Standby for a muse, once I've got the wording right.STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-45522804425845513142013-06-06T06:47:50.649+01:002013-06-06T06:47:50.649+01:00Hi Stevo, I remember reading about this report man...Hi Stevo, I remember reading about this report many years ago and incorporated the idea in the last chapter of my book, 'Perpetual Motion; An Ancient Mystery solved?' <br /><br />My suggestion was that if we could tap gravity, a linear force, by manipulating the movement of of some weights to turn a wheel, then by turning a wheel we might produce a linear force. This would drive a space ship etc etc.<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-38709198263334949872013-06-06T03:16:10.119+01:002013-06-06T03:16:10.119+01:00Guys, you're not going to believe this!
Check ...Guys, you're not going to believe this!<br />Check www.rexresearch.com/bull/1bull.htm<br />It's Ealadah's circular Orffyreus aircraft!<br /><br />John, do you think the mechanism could be adapted to a purely mechanical one, in imitation of the Columbian Wheel gymnasts?STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-76170361499004950212013-06-06T02:09:17.782+01:002013-06-06T02:09:17.782+01:00Zoelra,
looks like you found it, maybe it comes up...Zoelra,<br />looks like you found it, maybe it comes up differently on Firefox.<br />There's plenty of sites with the same info, probably just came up in another order. STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-56460656901063899132013-06-06T01:42:26.640+01:002013-06-06T01:42:26.640+01:00https://www.simonsfoundation.org/features/science-...https://www.simonsfoundation.org/features/science-news/perpetual-motion-test-could-amend-theory-of-time/Zoelrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243774767540915176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-27326946295407133172013-06-06T01:27:43.286+01:002013-06-06T01:27:43.286+01:00Time does not exist because Trevor postulated it &...Time does not exist because Trevor postulated it "awhile back". <br />And the wheel will get finished "in the future". LOL!<br /><br />No Trevor, I won't go away, but thanks for asking.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02355179275304906755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-9215475841626447652013-06-05T23:31:31.184+01:002013-06-05T23:31:31.184+01:00Ealadha,
things are looking up right now, why don&...Ealadha,<br />things are looking up right now, why don't you find a nice internet cafe with free Wi-Fi ?STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-17940634351445679832013-06-05T22:52:51.009+01:002013-06-05T22:52:51.009+01:00Zoelra,
That is how the address came up under the ...Zoelra,<br />That is how the address came up under the subject title, I just copied it after trying it out myself.<br />I'll try it out again, if I got it wrong, I'll re-do it.<br />... is in the address.STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-9450235844262180362013-06-05T17:11:45.386+01:002013-06-05T17:11:45.386+01:00Consciousness is the only thing that exists, every...Consciousness is the only thing that exists, everything else is illusory. <br />I will not be on the internet for a while because I have not paid my internet service provider they are disconnecting me in one hour.<br />Ealadhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244955937573785511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-55267603036800967442013-06-05T12:41:17.973+01:002013-06-05T12:41:17.973+01:00This is further proof of what I postulated awhile ...This is further proof of what I postulated awhile back.<br />Time does not exist,period.<br />Those time crystals are actually,..Zero time crystals.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12409874937563133478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-21110974436759299612013-06-05T12:12:26.765+01:002013-06-05T12:12:26.765+01:00@STEVO
www.simonsfoundation.org/.../perpetual-mot...@STEVO<br /><br />www.simonsfoundation.org/.../perpetual-motion-test-could-amend<br /><br />Can you give a full path. Not sure what ... is supposed to be.Zoelrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243774767540915176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-2950436513483233682013-06-05T08:37:21.125+01:002013-06-05T08:37:21.125+01:00Funny ED,..why don't you just go away!Funny ED,..why don't you just go away!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12409874937563133478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-5442915090511225702013-06-05T01:36:04.492+01:002013-06-05T01:36:04.492+01:00Scientists are preparing an elaborate lab experime...Scientists are preparing an elaborate lab experiment, although it may take “anywhere between three and infinity years” to complete. Well that's right up Trevor's street. :-)Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02355179275304906755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-74747586706295486772013-06-04T22:43:12.415+01:002013-06-04T22:43:12.415+01:00Hey! guess what,
everyone who was calling for Eal...Hey! guess what, <br />everyone who was calling for Ealadha to do nasty things should check this out.<br />www.simonsfoundation.org/.../perpetual-motion-test-could-amend...<br />Perpetual motion, time crystals, everything!<br />Maybe an apology is in order?STEVOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964126679652081755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-20323824985212990842013-06-04T18:51:46.129+01:002013-06-04T18:51:46.129+01:00Some have previously suggested that most, if not a...Some have previously suggested that most, if not all, of the mechanism action possibly takes place within the lower quadrant of the downward side of the wheel. Looking at a clockwise turning wheel, this would be between the 3:00 o'clock and 6:00 o'clock position. If this is possible, and we also speculate that each mechanism is independently responsible for imbalance, working by itself without being linked to another, then five mechanisms, equally spaced within a wheel, would guarantee that at least one of the mechanisms is at all time 'acting' within the lower quadrant on the downward side. This one mechanism would be causing the system to be continuously out of balance.<br /><br />If this is the case, then this would demonstrate that five mechanisms would be necessary for a wheel to be 'self-starting', without any addition of an outside force (i.e. turning it by hand to start the wheel, etc.)<br /><br />If the above is true, then one to four mechanisms would work only if started with additional force, but five or more mechanisms would be 'self-starting', and out of balance at all times.<br /><br />Oh, how I wish I knew what Bessler was thinking!<br /><br />The best of research to everyone!<br /><br />Hutch<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Hutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222483722126827405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-8935899338948744872013-06-04T13:50:55.316+01:002013-06-04T13:50:55.316+01:00It is going ok (ok = slow), Running a company, a f...It is going ok (ok = slow), Running a company, a family and children can be a litle too much from time to time. As I mentioned, one mechanism (weight pair) is buildt and confimed to work just as predicted. (Stage 1) Stage 2 is to build new mechanisms, more accurate and in a better material etc. We have not had time to get together and make a new parts-list and find a suitable local supplier of aluminium parts. The difference between your principle and mine, is that I can not do a premature test to find OU. As all the mechanisms must be coordinated and dependant of eachother to achieve the desired motion. For the same reason the individual calcultaions /path change if more mechanisms is added. Secondly I have also found a litle more information about Besslers geometry codes and his references. <br /><br />Øysteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458700332467872501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-40158134201466566742013-06-04T12:36:33.352+01:002013-06-04T12:36:33.352+01:00John,
If you truly confident in your design, in...John, <br /> If you truly confident in your design, invest in a larger wheel big enough for the 5 mechanisms.<br />I would think there would be more room for error with 5 vs. 1. If you are using just one and don't have it just perfect, maybe it doesn't barely revolve. JMOjustsomeonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031906748492333614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4862207778089432835.post-10849237235467343202013-06-04T08:39:14.972+01:002013-06-04T08:39:14.972+01:00Thanks Øystein. How's your own project coming...Thanks Øystein. How's your own project coming along?<br /><br />JCJohn Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274781515636883957noreply@blogger.com