Wednesday 3 April 2024

Update on my Proof of Principle Model of Bessler’s Wheel.

Someone emailed me to ask me why I didn’t visit the Besslerwheel forum any more and why was my blog silent about my work?

Well I visit the forum everyday but find that I have little reason to comment.  I have rarely come across anything that hasn’t been commented on countless times in the past and the authors seem to be very few in number these days, although they sometimes have excellent discussions with interesting topics.  

There is a lot of commentary on the English translations done for me by my friend Mike Senior, not so much finding fault as much as trying to squeeze extra information from the translations using modern translators.  I have no objection to this, it might be helpful, but I recall Mike’s advice to me when he agreed to translate everything.  

The text was written 300 years ago in a foreign language by a man who was born into a peasant family.  No criticism intended, but his culture would have used colloquialisms, slang, numerous idioms and of course common terminology - unknown to us.  Nuances in meaning vary in all languages including German and English.  So using Mike’s translations provided in a form which he believed gives the most likely meaning is probably as near as we can get to Bessler’s thoughts.  Not that Mike didn’t make mistakes , I’m sure he did, but in my opinion it’s still the best we have. Modern translators use modern German as their baseline - I doubt they could use the German of Bessler’s day to get modern English - even the English of the 1700s differs markably to today’s language.

Visit this website for numerous examples of how English word meanings have changed or even reversed their meanings.  It’s called semantics and it is common to all languages.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change#:~:text=Semantic%20change%20(also%20semantic%20shift,different%20from%20the%20original%20usage.

The other question about this blog - why is it so silent? Good question, I hoped too have some real answers relatively quickly.

Time passes at an ever increasing speed and my intention was to have one final go at building a working model of Bessler’s wheel, before my 79th birthday, but it seems to have been blown off course by the winds of time.  I thought that with all the rain we’ve been having, I could work on Bessler's wheel in my garage/workshop secure in the knowledge that working outside on my wife’s exterior plans was out of the question.  Oops, I had forgotten a list of interior jobs I had promised to deal with asap.  Anyway to quote from “Gone with the Wind”, the last line of the book reads, “tomorrow is another day”.  So tomorrow has come…..a bit. Now I’m able to spend, at least some time on the wheel, I believe there are no more excuses left for me but to finish this job once and for all!

So from now on I’ll be working on it, but continuing to fulfil my other commitments, by working round them, hopefully.  I’ll have a better idea of a finishing date after a few days.

Thomas Edison said, “I have not failed, I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.” I guess the same applies to me/us, but my confidence in this design is high and even if it doesn’t work, I will share it here in case anyone’s interested. I do think it is the same as Bessler’s but rather than try to explain it I’ll simply post photos and videos of it once it’s ready. This is not a new design for me because I’ve been studying it for almost a year, but there have been minor alterations and adjustments to make, not to mention the old pieces of previous mechanisms I’m using up which require extensive alterations. 

But perhaps these are just excuses for my procrastination? Maybe I can always find other things to do, which I convince myself, are more important, more urgent ….and easier! Or as someone suggested, the reason for the delay is apparently, that  I fear the outcome which will end in another failure.  That at least is not true, I always anticipate success even though, like Thomas Edison, I’ve found 10,00O, ways of making a stationary wheel.  I’m just getting older and it takes more of an effort to keep working, but I’m definitely going to finish this one as soon as I can.

JC


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  1. After quickly reviewing the last three months of relevant blog comments here, I too have noticed a drop off in their frequency and must confess I contributed my share of neglect to that. Last year I had promised to return after the beginning of the new year with some previously undiscovered clues, but, as in the case of others, "life got in the way" and I must apologize for my neglect. The good news is that I have found what I consider to be one of the most important clues Bessler ever "hid in plain sight" last month and wanted to presented it then, but could not find the time to do it with a well drawn illustration.

    I now promise to try to make up for that by presenting it in the next few days with a nicely drawn illustration showing the location of this amazing clue. How do I know it is a genuine Bessler clue and not just my imagination at work? This clue is repeated twice in two closely related drawings which was Bessler's way of verifying it was genuine. It is not an easy clue to see and I only found it by the most incredible stroke of luck.

    I will reveal it in the next few days. I'm sure it will make many very happy, but it may depress others.


    Sayer of Sooths

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    1. Welcome back, SoS! For a while there I thought you might have quit this blog. Glad to see I was wrong. I will be looking forward to whatever new clues you can provide us with.

      Paul

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    2. God help us !

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    3. I'm also a fan of yours SoS. I'm always amazed at how you can find and explain in simple language clues in the Bessler drawings that we've all looked at for years but never noticed. I'm still spooked out by that severed head clue you found hidden in the mt toys page! The big mystery is WHY would Bessler put something like that there? What was he trying to tell us? No one has gotten a good answer so far imo.

      I'll also we looking forward to your latest revelations. Any chance of giving us a couple of hints in advance?

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    4. Thanks for the kind remarks Paul and anon 12:16!

      My illustration for the new clue is not done yet, but I can at least fulfill anon 12:16's request for a hint.

      Take a look at the titles above that DT drawing showing the two views of the Kassel wheel; one lifting a box of stones outside the Weissenstein Castle window and the other swinging its huge pendulum. One title is in German and the other is in Latin. However, there is something in both titles that does NOT belong there! When you finally notice it, it will lead you to a really BIG surprise in the two wheel drawings below the titles.

      However, you will need to be very lucky to find it.


      Sayer of Sooths

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    5. This is ridiculous. I've studied that drawing for years and there are no clues in either its two titles or the wheels. I think this is just a lot of hype to get everyone here all excited. I bet we'll never see that "new clue" of his and he'll probably quickly disappear when he realizes he can't make one up for us. Watch and see how right I am!

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    6. @anon 00:02,
      You must be new here. SoS is a doer and not just a talker like so many others who wander through here. If he says he's going to reveal something amazing, I have no doubt that it will be. Get ready to lose your bet.

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    7. Anon 12:16 wrote;

      "I'm still spooked out by that severed head clue you found hidden in the mt toys page! The big mystery is WHY would Bessler put something like that there? What was he trying to tell us?"

      My best guess is that he wanted people in the future to remember that he was willing to let his head be chopped off if he was lying about having a genuine pm wheel. He must have thought that knowing he would risk that would then have increased their confidence that if they built a wheel according to his carefully hidden clues, then it would have to work. That severed head is definitely the weirdest clue he ever put into a drawing which is why he made it so small and easy to miss. If SoS hadn't pointed it out to us, we may never have noticed it!

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    8. You were right, anon 06:16. I lost my bet! I won't make the mistake of underestimating him again.

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  2. Part 1 of 2:

    Without further delay, here is the new clue I promised to reveal a few days ago which, as I previously mentioned, can be found in the DT drawing showing the two full face views of the Kassel wheel's drum.

    If you look at the two titles above the wheels, one in German and the other in Latin, you will notice that there is a PERIOD punctuation mark at the end of each title! In almost all titles I have ever seen, no period is used because it is unnecessary. Periods mean that a full stop must be made at the end of one sentence to then be followed by the beginning of the next sentence. But, in a one sentence title there is no next sentence and a period is not used (however, other punctuations like an exclamation point or question mark may be used).

    I kept asking myself why Bessler put those two periods at the ends of the titles when I remembered that he often used things like periods and decimal points as geometrical points at the beginning or end of a line segment or actually on the line segment itself. It turns out that is exactly how he used them in that DT drawing!

    For the left side drawing of the drum, the next point in a line segment extended down from the period at the end of its German title is the center of the wheel's axle and if you continue to further extend that line segment (which I colored red) downward, it will end at the center of that rope pulley bolted to the floor below the drum (note that my illustration showing this is located in Part 2 of this comment).

    Next draw another line segment from the place where the window pane frame pieces cross over to and through the center of the left wheel's axle and then out until it reaches the missing portion of the drum's outer circumference which I've added to the empty space available for it in the right side drum's drawing. That line segment is exactly oriented at a right angle to the first line segment from the title's end period to the center of the floor pulley.

    You can then add two additional red line segments, one starting from the lower left corner of the left side drawing and the other from the top of that left side drawing where the shading on the back wall turns from dark to light, that each pass through the center of the left side wheel's axle. Now, if you locate the eight points on the outer circumference of the left side wheel's drum where these four red lines intersect and then connect adjacent ones with shorter line segments (which I colored yellow), you will see that they form a PERFECT OCTAGON!


    Sayer of Sooths

    (Continued and concluded in Part 2 of 2)

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      A similar treatment is used on the right side drawing of the Kassel wheel's drum.

      You get your first line segment by extending a red line down from the period at the end of the Latin title through the center of the wheel's axle and onto the other side of the drum's outer circumference. The line segment at a right angle to that one is gotten by extending a red line segment from the bottom of that out of place Roman numeral "i", which Bessler uses for the Arabic numeral 1, on the left side wheel's drum through the center of the axle of the right side wheel's drum and outward to that drum's outer circumference.

      The remaining two red line segments are gotten by extending line segments from the bottom point of the triangular lock at the bottom of the left side wheel's drum and the center of the left top metal ball weight on the right side wheel's compound pendulum through the center of the right side wheel's axle and onward to the opposite sides of the drum's outer circumference. Connecting the adjacent intersection points of these four red line segments with the outer circumference of the right side wheel's drum with short yellow line segments then forms ANOTHER perfect octagon!

      Here's a link to the illustration I made that shows the two perfect octagons that are formed inside the two drums shown in that DT drawing by the interconnecting yellow line segments:

      https://postimg.cc/T5Xm4FZW

      Notice that all of the corresponding yellow sides of the two octagons are nearly perfectly parallel with each other. This repetition of the octagon shape was Bessler's way of telling us that this is a genuine clue of his. It must have taken much effort on his part to place the elements into this DT drawing that would then allow the two octagons to be found and oriented as they are.

      Meaning? At a minimum, I consider it proof that his Kassel wheel, and most likely all of his other wheels, used eight parallel sets of radial supports inside of their drums which extended from their axles all the way out to their outer circumferences. Assuming that he would have wanted to place the "perpetual motion structures" that powered his wheels into the strongest and most rigid portions of their drums, the implication of this clue is that all of his one direction wheels used eight such mechanisms and his two direction wheels would have used sixteen such mechanisms if their larger diameter and thicker drums contained two side by side and "back to back" one direction wheels as many believe.

      If we could make an x-ray photograph of one of Bessler's wheels, we would most likely see that their weight carrying levers' steel pivots formed the corners of a perfect octagon inside of the drum.

      Perhaps there are other interpretations of these two octagons I found in this DT drawing, but at least this hard to find clue can now give students of Bessler's wheels something new to consider.


      Sayer of Sooths

      (Conclusion of Part 2 of 2)

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    2. Nice find, SoS! Those two octagons are too perfect to just be there by chance. They had to be put there deliberately by Bessler to give us some important information about his wheels. The eight spokes on an axle fits in perfectly with what someone noticed during a demo of the Draschwitz wheel. He could see through tiny gaps between the wood slats on the sides that they were all attached to eight spokes.

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    3. Ingenious SoS, but I have completely different interpretations. Good work though .
      JC

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    4. @JC
      You have "completely different interpretations"? What other interpretations could one have? SoS's latest new clue seems to be a genuine message directly from Bessler that his wheels used an octagonal arrangement inside of them. I agree with SoS that the best and strongest place to locate any weight carrying levers inside a drum would to put them between parallel pairs of spokes. Eight spokes means eight levers with weights. What other interpretation can one get from a clue like this?

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    5. I'm very suspicious of all the comments that appear, praising and supporting SoS. It's almost like he's posting them himself to make him appear guru-like.

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    6. The framework does not mean jack s.

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    7. When I read that it was the periods that did not belong in both titles on that DT drawing I felt like slapping my forehead and saying "Damn, why didn't I notice that!". But, then I realized the reason was because I'm no SoS just a student of his. Anyway, this is another interesting new clue that you've found for us. It helps to strengthen my believe in Bessler's wheels using eight weights which, as others noted, would have been located between parallel pairs of spokes. Where else would one place heavy lead weights that were traveling around a 12 foot diameter wheel turning at 26 rpm's which, if my math is right, is 16.33 feet/second or about 11.13 miles per hour. Those weights would be feeling a lot of downward force acting on them as they traveled down and around the wheel's 6 o'clock location. If they or rather the levers they were attached to were not securely fixed to the drum's spokes, they might come flying out of the bottom of the drum!

      Anyway, thanks for another very interesting new clue for us, SoS, which I will now be adding to my growing collection of them.

      Paul

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    8. @Paul
      You are right about the force those weights would exert on the drum's frame as they went under the drum. At a drum speed of 26 rpm's the centrifugal force must be added to the mass of a weight at that time. I used an online calculator that says the centrifugal force acting on a 50 pound weight moving at that speed is about 69 pounds. Adding that force to 50 pounds gives a momentary total downward force of 119 pounds. That's a lot of force to apply to a wooden lever and any steel shaft type pivot it would be hanging off of. They'd have to be fairly strong to withstand it. Maybe he used metal levers?

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    9. I'm glad most (especially my "student", Paul!) found the new clue of interest. Once again, I must emphasize that I stumbled upon it by sheer luck. The fact that Bessler repeats it convinces me it is in fact a genuine clue. I normally specialize in the analysis of numerological clues, but this one gave me an opportunity to sharpen my skills in finding and analyzing geometrical clues and it certainly gave me plenty of practice! Despite the extra effort, it was a welcomed change of pace for me.

      I had planned to promptly leave to focus on other off line matters after revealing this latest clue, but another detail in that DT drawing suddenly caught my attention and may delay my departure for a few more days. It's that odd, out of place flourish at the top of the right side wheel's drum drawing which is located so close to the fold of the pages. When I went through all of the pages of the original DT, I found out that is the ONLY such flourish he used in the entire book! My immediate question was why was it there? Decorative flourishes in printing are usually placed near page or chapter numbers and never only used once by themselves and near a fold. Bessler must have put it there for a good reason. I want to know what that reason was!

      I think before I take off again, I'm going to take a good long look at that flourish and try to find out what Bessler may have meant by it. As I learned over the years, there are very few genuine accidental engraving / printing errors in Bessler's drawings. That's why, when you find one, you can be about 99% sure it has some deeper and deliberate meaning to it.


      Sayer of Sooths

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    10. Thanks Mikey Ned

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    11. @SoS

      I hate to have to dampen your enthusiasm, but that flourish is just a separator that Bessler inserted between two drawing titles that were in different languages. It only appears there because that was the only place in DT where it was needed. It's just some flowery little squiggle design he made up. There's no deeper meaning to it and I wouldn't waste my time on it if I was you.

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    12. Sorry, SoS, but I agree with anon 07:52 that it's just some sort of floral squiggle Bessler used as a separator for the same title in two different languages. I would have just used a thick black vertical line, though. But, if you can find a different interpretation of it, I'd like to read it. Here's a close up image of the squiggle for everyone to study:

      https://postimg.cc/F1w2fCn6

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  3. A better detail view

    [url=https://postimages.org/][img]https://i.postimg.cc/YqhqdbWG/Secunda-Doodle1.gif[/img][/url]

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  4. https://postimg.cc/dLcY1Rnw

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    1. I think it's just some little flower like curlicue thing Bessler made up in a hurry to finish the engraving plate for that DT drawing and like everyone says is just intended to be a border between the two titles. But, I'll be curious to see what SoS makes out of it. No doubt he'll find "some deeper and deliberate meaning to it". He always does! But, then again, that's his hobby so what else can we expect? Fasten your seat belts everyone! Lol!

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    2. It is one thing to see or find geometry and lines and numbers but it is another level when you say it means such and such while the meanings you extract comes from your own mind .

      Then to say it is what Bessler meant , is whole new level altogether.

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    3. @anon14:24
      SoS is a professional psychic and he may be using some sort of rare genetic psi power he has to pick up from the B drawings what B was actually thinking as he made them. So far I've found every interpretation he's made of the clues, especially in MT, to make a lot of sense. You'll notice whenever he gives his interpretation no one else here can come up with a better one. All they can do is ignore them or change the subject. Of course, the ultimate test of anyone's interpretations of clues is whether or not they lead to a working wheel. Right now there are a few claiming working sims based on their particular clue interpretations, but still no working physical wheel. But, one of these days...

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    4. I think all that psychic stuff is a load of bull. But, I have to admit those two octagons he found in that drawing shook me up. Bessler had to have put them there on purpose. There's no getting around that. The question is what was the purpose?

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  5. Part 1 of 2


    I hope everyone has their seatbelts tightened!

    The casual dismissal of that DT drawing flourish as just a "squiggle" Bessler used as a separator of the same title in two different languages certainly sounds plausible and I'm sure that almost all who noticed it in the past came to the same conclusion. I, however, recognize it as a nice example of what I call a "Bessler Mind Trick". I define them as some feature in a Bessler drawing which seems, on the surface, to be one thing, but, in reality, has a hidden meaning that only someone who is really into studying Bessler's secret pm wheel design would have any hope of truly understanding.

    It may look like a separator for the German and Latin drawing titles, but there really is no need for such a separator because the fold between the two halves of the drawing could adequately serve such a purpose. For those who think it's just a meaningless floral squiggle, then you needed to have first rotated it 90 degrees counterclockwise before jumping to your conclusion. If you had done that, then you would have seen that, rather than some flower blossoms and leaves, it's actually three EYES!

    There is a single eye by itself and then a joined pair of eyes. Whenever Bessler shows any kind of eye or optical device in a drawing, it is his way of telling the astute reader to very carefully study whatever the eye was looking at or the optical device was pointing to. In this case I believe the single eye is an instruction to carefully study the first left side wheel drawing and the pair of eyes is an instruction to carefully study the second right side wheel drawing. When I obediently followed those instructions from Bessler, I found the two octagons he intended for me to find in the drawings!

    The pair of eyes has a small projection in the corner of one eye that points down to what looks like another separator between the two wheel drawings. That separator consists of a thick black vertical section and three thinner white vertical sections to the left of that thick black vertical section (there's also a thin white vertical section to the right of the black vertical section, but I don't need to use it in the following analysis). Many who read DT over the centuries may even have thought those vertical sections to the left of the right side wheel drawing represented a simplified cross section view of the room's outer wall containing the window that is shown in detail to the left of the wheel in the left side drawing. For reference, here is a link to a quick ms paint illustration I made to show the details of what my analysis of that DT flourish revealed:

    https://postimg.cc/6TpKHXp4

    What clue was Bessler giving us by pointing the eyes down to those vertical sections? My best guess is that the thick black section, because of its color, represents the dark linen covering on one side of the Kassel wheel's drum. The three smaller vertical white sections to the immediate left of that thick vertical black section would then each symbolize one radial support piece attached to the drum's axle. I've numbered those white vertical sections 1, 2, and 3.


    Sayer of Sooths

    (Continued and concluded in Part 2)

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      If, being a two direction wheel, the Kassel wheel's thick drum contained two one direction wheels placed side by side and back to back, then one of those wheel's eight perpetual motion structures or weight carrying levers would have been placed between the eight number 1 and 2 parallel pairs of radial supports and the other wheel's eight would have been placed between the eight number 2 and 3 parallel pairs of radial supports.

      To have the two one direction wheels as close as possible to each other inside of the drum so as to keep its outside thickness as small as possible (which Bessler managed to get down to about 18 inches), both one way wheels' eight levers would have had to share the eight number 2 radial supports which would be attached to the middle of the section of the axle hidden inside of the drum. That extra stress on them means that those eight radial supports would need to be thicker and stronger than the others that were in contact with the outside linen cloth coverings on the two full faces of the drum and that explains why that middle white vertical section in the DT drawing that I numbered 2 in my ms paint illustration is so thick compared to the other two white vertical sections that I labeled 1 and 3.

      Well, I think this is enough from me for now, but before leaving, I just want to say that I sense that what I've managed to find so far in this single DT drawing is really only a small fraction of the total number of secret clues that it actually contains. It's like an iceberg where we, so far, only see the smaller part above the water's surface and the much larger part of it is still submerged and out of sight, but awaiting discovery. As my time permits, I will continue to look for more clues in it and when I find them, I'll be back to reveal them if I think they are important enough.

      Farewell until then, everyone.


      Sayer of Sooths

      PS. You may now all unfasten your seatbelts. I, however, will continue to always carry my good luck talismans with me. I'm convinced that I would not have found those double octagons in the DT drawing without them!

      (Conclusion of Part 2 of 2)

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    2. Yep they're eyes not flowers. You got yourself another fan Sos.

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    3. I think I learned more from this blog's comments than I did from all of the other blog comments going back to the beginning of this year! I wish SoS could be here every week giving us new clues. He's like a walking, clue finding computer! He uses lucky talismans to help him? So what? Maybe I'll give that approach a try too because nothing else ever worked for me!

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    4. Wow, SoS! I just returned here and realized that you added a bonus clue on top of that amazing double octagon clue you already gave us. It's not as spectacular as the double octagon clue, but I found it interesting nonetheless. I give each of your clues names in my collection of them. The earlier one will be called "The Double Octagon Clue" and the bonus one will be "The Three Eyes Clue".

      I agree with you that there's probably more clues hidden in that DT drawing of the Kassel wheel drums then meets the eye. Finding them won't be easy and will require the skills of someone like you. I have no doubt you'll find something interesting for us from that drawing in the future. But, please don't take so long before you come back here again. A full three or four months is too much. Maybe you could try to pop in once a month with new clues for us? That would be great! I and I'm sure others here will be waiting impatiently for your return.

      Paul

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    5. I've been looking for clues like those all my life and can hardly believe they are finally starting to show up. I agree that the "double octagon clue" is an important one. If not for SoS I don't think anybody ever would have known in was sitting there waiting to be found. Much thanks to SoS.

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    6. @Anon 09:34. IIRC someone years ago also found a perfect octagon hidden in the Merseberg wheel's drum. It's angles and sides were better than those of the pentagon JC kept claiming was in that wheel's drum. I'm not sure what blog it was in, though. Anyone save the image file of it?

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    7. Hello anon 13:22

      I did save a copy of that Merseburg wheel octagon but I had a hard drive crash last year and can't find it anywhere on a backup I made of some of the past images linked to on this blog. However here is how I remember you found it:

      https://i.postimg.cc/QdRHCxGs/merseburg-octagon.jpg

      You used the parts where those uprights for the pendulum supports crossed the drum's rim and also you had to drop and use a vertical line down from the box of bricks out the window. When you connected the dots you got a perfect octagon.

      I'm not sure if SoS was the one who found it, but I do remember he pointed out that the top parts of the pendulum supports used looked like the letter H. He said that H is the 8th letter of the alphabet and that meant Bessler's wheels used eight levers with weights inside of them. That seemed to fit in with the symbols of the swinging pendulum and the weight out the window.

      I vaguely recall John getting angry that people liked the octagon better than the pentagon he claimed he found in the drum and he started to delete their comments! At the time he kept saying he welcomed other opinions here but it seemed like only if they happened to agree with his.

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    8. Interesting, anon 19:47. I hadn't seen that one before and it looks like a perfect octagon. I notice the number 8's by the pendulum rod which acts like a long lever. Another clue from B telling us he used eight levers inside the drums of his wheels? It's too bad B never made a drawing of the Draschwitz wheel because if he had he'd probably have hid another octagon in it too!

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    9. @anon 01:13

      This crude woodcut engraving made by Bessler to show how Borlach thought Bessler faked his pm wheels may be close to what his Draschwitz wheel actually looked like: It doesn't look like it has an octagon hidden in it anywhere.

      https://www.mediastorehouse.com/p/164/orffyreus-wheel-man-4370948.jpg.webp

      However, the Draschwitz wheel had three pins at one end of its short axle for continuously raising dropping three wooden stamps. Its drum was about 9 feet in diameter.

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    10. That engraving was made by Bessler and is in DT. He "copied" Borlach's engraving, with some changes to the original Borlach engraving. Borlach visited and saw the Merseburg wheel in operation and then made his engraving and comments about it.

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    11. The Borlach drawing shows the drum shifted over toward the right end of the axle which was where the Merseburg wheel's drum was attached to the axle. Bessler's version in DT, however, places the drum in the middle of the axle which is where it was attached in the Draschwitz wheel. Bessler had to do that on purpose, but I'm wondering why.

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    12. My mistake! The Merseburg wheel's drum was attached to the middle of the axle unlike the drum in Borlach's version of the Merseburg wheel which shifted way too far to the right. I think, however, that the Draschwitz wheel's axle was much shorter than the six foot long one used on the Merseburg wheel. Bessler's version is the more accurate one.

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  6. Or alternatively, as mentioned many years ago, the above single figure represents the one-way wheel, and the lower double figure represents the two-way wheel

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    1. I was anticipating a revelation coinciding with my own work done on these illustrations, but to be honest I was relieved to find nothing of the sort. I was relieved because I plan to release everything as soon as I’ve finished my last attempt to build a PoP model which I’m certain is similar to Bessler’s. SoS’s discoveries make fascinating reading but they are not, in my opinion anywhere close the real revelation I’m planning very soon.

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    2. @JC
      SoS's latest clue revealing those octagons in the Kassel wheel seems to prove Bessler did not use a pentagonal pattern of levers inside of his wheels. He literally tells us in that clue that his design was based on eight spokes attached to a wheel's axle that would have held eight levers and not just five like you keep insisting on. Maybe it's time that you stopped wasting your remaining energy chasing something that hasn't worked in the past, isn't working now, and won't be working in the future?

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    3. John wrote "...I plan to release everything as soon as I’ve finished my last attempt to build a PoP model which I’m certain is similar to Bessler’s."

      We all heard the same thing from him during the last months in 2023 leading up to his "Big Reveal" that took place last new year's day 2024. All we got back then was a hasty and disappointing last minute release of a few poorly drawn Paint sketches that told us next to nothing. None of the promised photos or videos were ever provided. What little his sketches showed involved a lot of pulleys and scissor arms that looked unworkable.

      Some here are predicting he'll be dropping all pretense of trying to actually build anything by the beginning of this summer and then resign himself to becoming just another armchair philosopher when it comes to Bessler's wheels. Whenever he finally does that, he will most likely keep going on and on about pentagons for the rest of his life while dropping occasional teasing little hints about the new clues he's finding to prove Bessler used such a design. If a working replica of a Bessler's wheel using eight levers ever does come along, he'll insist that it cannot actually be Bessler's design and will keep pushing his pentagon approach on anyone who will listen. Admitting one is wrong about something is not an easy thing to do especially after it's been stuck in one's mind for a lifetime.

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    4. John wrote: "I was anticipating a revelation coinciding with my own work done on these illustrations, but to be honest I was relieved to find nothing of the sort."

      You were "relieved"?! Most people would think that you should have been shocked and depressed since that SoS double octagon clue looks like it proves that you've been chasing an imaginary pm wheel design all of these years that has nothing to do with the one Bessler used. Do you have any way of explaining away the validity of SoS's latest clue? To me it looks like one of the best and clearest new clues to ever come along on this blog.

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    5. Lets see , since the page is not flat but has a fold line lifting up a bit in the middle across , the two lines projecting in to the left side drawing from the right hand side drawing angle's would be completely different , destroying the notion that the geometry extends as drawn to the right !

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    6. Let me clear it up a little more , if the page is pressed down until it is flat in the middle , the left part will move left and the right part will move right , so the angle lines extending from one side to the other would be moved and not connect the parts drawn.

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    7. As someone once said, you don't have to ride a bus to the end of the line to realize that you're on the wrong bus. I think John needs to seriously consider the implications of that double octagon clue SoS found in that DT drawing even if doing so hammers the final nails into the coffin lid of John's five weight mechanism theory.

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    8. Thanks for the comments, but time will reveal the truth and I think you will all be pleasantly surprised that I’m right and all these speculations are just fanciful illusions.

      JC

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    9. You're right as usual, John. Those two perfect octagons in that DT drawing don't prove anything. Bessler probably deliberately put them there to throw everyone off from finding his real secret which, as you so quickly realized long ago, was that his wheels actually used five levers in a pentagonal arrangement. I pity all of the fools who think Bessler used eight levers in an octagonal arrangement. They obvious all fell for what SoS calls a "Bessler Mind Trick". But, not you because you were way too smart to fall for that trick!

      Shemp

      (Also, any rumors of my death are false. I am still living my first reincarnation following my original death back in 1955.)

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    10. Imo , I find it interesting but I don't really pay much attention to these type of finds , anyone who is part or was part of BW forum would know that there has been numerous geometry figures shown on bessler's drawings , people have and still are exploring such avenues , but i never actually see anything worthy of a second look or further investigation for myself , figures on their own mean nothing to me personally , but each their own.

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    11. Anon 01:33 wrote:

      "Some here are predicting he'll be dropping all pretense of trying to actually build anything by the beginning of this summer and then resign himself to becoming just another armchair philosopher when it comes to Bessler's wheels."

      If that happens, then we will have to give John a new title to replace his old one of "John, the Great Disappointer" because if he stops building, he'll also stop making future promises he can't keep and then inevitably disappointing everyone and making them angry at him. I'm now proposing a new title for him then which will be "John, KING of the Bessler Wheel Armchair Philosophers"! Sounds much better to be a king than a disappointer.

      We must now await his future coronation and ascent to his well cushioned throne. Upon reaching it, a golden five point crown will be placed upon his sweaty bald head for all the world to see:

      https://img.freepik.com/vector-gratis/aislado-blanco-pentagonal-golden-crown_109064-257.jpg

      Long live King John!!!

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    12. I'd advise those here that think they can somehow help John to not waste his time with his current design by showing him new clues or designs or by challenging any of his old clues to not waste their time doing that. No matter how many times he fails to get any results, he will just ignore anyone else's advice and keep obsessing over some little change to try next to make whatever current design he thinks is "similar" to Bessler's finally work and then procrastinate for weeks to months until he finally gives it a try. Meanwhile, he will be blaming everyone and everything else (like his latest house move, his wife's never ending "to do" list for him, the weather, his age, his aching body, etc.) for his total lack of progress. At all times he will be blind to the true cause of his lack of results which is simply that the design he's working with is NOT the one that Bessler used. Imo, that double octagon clue proves that any kind of five weight lever approach is not the same or even similar to Bessler's.
      But, keep in mind that John is not the only one with this problem. I'm sure many over on that digital sleeping pill known as the bwf also have it. I think constant failures in the search for pm can actually paralyze a person mentally so he cannot drop an obviously useless approach and then consider and try something entirely new. This paralysis is why most pm chasers spend their lives making no progress and only wind up finally quitting or getting totally burned out from it all. Fortunately, this was not a problem Bessler suffered from.
      Just looking through MT shows that he must have considered dozens of different approaches during his decade long search. Flexibility as well as persistence was the secret of his success...plus a lot of luck and a little help from God.

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    13. You talk a lot and do f all.

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    14. Yes. Doesn't have any imagination and a theory worth squat. Doesn't build anything. Doesn't simulate anything. Doesn't share any ideas or help analyze anyone else's ideas. Contributes nothing other than verbose toxic remarks about others attempts to actually solve the riddle. A classic troll hiding as an anonymous keyboard warrior.

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    15. Unlike that "verbose and toxic" troll, I don't think that a pm chaser actually gets paralyzed, but he can develop a sort of tunnel vision that only lets him see a problem from one angle and then quickly convince himself that enough tweaks will surely eventually make it work. He can then stay focused on that single approach for years forgetting all about his previous dozens of tweaks of it that did nothing if he even bothers to keep track of them all. Another reason to stay stuck and stupid with a particular approach is because it's easier to do that then make a big change which could require new materials, tools, etc. Why bother when one could be so close to final success? It might be only a single tweak away!

      Of course, making big changes is no guarantee of success, but I think it definitely increases one's chance of success. It worked for Bessler, but he was a very lucky man. That's the major advantage of simming. It lets one make big changes in minimum time and at minimum cost.

      Sadly, I think most pm chasers will eventually come to regret all of the time, effort, and money they put into their hobby. We need to hear more from those that quit and why they did. All we read about on blogs like this is how amazing Bessler's invention was. It certainly was, but he was not the average pm chaser only the rarest of exceptions. The vast majority of pm chasers won't ever have even a tiny fraction of Bessler's luck during their entire lifetime which they will only finally realize as they lay on their deathbeds. Unfortunately, life doesn't come with a reset button...a wasted life cannot be relived again.

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    16. Anon 06:22
      You make some valid points, but for me at least half of the enjoyment as a pm chaser lies in the quest itself. I will never regret all the time and effort I’ve expended in this hobby, because it’s kept me alive, curious and busy and out of my armchair! My mind is full of possible solutions, and not just about Bessler’s wheel, but other ways of generating electricity. So, ‘je ne regrette rien’ as the song goes, I have no regrets - even if I fail.

      JC

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    17. Anon 06:21 wrote:

      "We need to hear more from those that quit and why they did."

      Ok, here's my brief story. About six years ago I saw a video of a permanent magnet motor being demonstrated. It was putting out hundreds of watts of power! There were some sketchy foreign patent drawings online by the inventor and I decided to build my own version. Over the course of about five years, I must have put in thousands of hours and spent thousands of dollars. What did I get for all of that? Absolutely nothing! It left me feeling drained and duped especially when I found out later that the inventor who had all kinds of grandiose plans for his revolutionary free energy machine, suddenly disappeared along with his "working" prototype. Then everyone was saying it had to have been a hoax powered by hidden lithium batteries! Apparently he had been collecting money from people to help him start a factory to perfect his device and bring it to market so every home could have one.

      I quit my search about a year ago, but lately I feel this need to start up again. It's almost like being a recovered alcoholic who has been "dry" too long and can't stop thinking about heading toward his nearest liquor store so he can go on a week long bender! I will never touch magnets again, but I am considering some sort of gravity only device. I'm fascinated by the Bessler story and also what I've seen in this blog. This time around, however, I will limit myself to only a single year of trying. If I get nothing after exactly one year, then I am out of it for the rest of my life. I would advise others to put a strict time limit on whatever approach they are using. If it doesn't produce results by then, then either move on to some other approach or quit.

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    18. I don't quite understand the regret argument , i can assure everyone what drives a PM seeker is everything other than regret , it is a fascination with everything new they learn , it is the satisfactory feeling of accomplishment when their new found knowledge is applied in the real world , tinkering and exploring physics ,searching for all the wonderful secrets held in nature.

      What is special about PM seekers is their ability to move on failure after failure and never feeling bad about any of it , because soon after , a new discovery would immediately consume any feelings of failure .

      Dear reader , sorry to let you know , regret is for people who do something morally wrong .

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    19. I tend to disagree with that. They might put on a positive looking front, but one failure after another, year after year has a way of wearing away at a person's enthusiasm and hopefulness. And, of course, constantly being told by family members and the scientists of the world that they are delusional and wasting their time does not help matters. They experience a kind of unique bondage. They can't make it work, yet they can't let go of it and move on. That must create a constant state of anxiety in them that cannot be relieved.
      I've often wondered if pm seekers are really masochists who are, through their futile hobby, unconsciously punishing themselves for some self perceived inferiority. Maybe they, who are almost always males, came from families where the parents, particularly their fathers, put them down because they could not do well in school or on jobs? I wonder if anyone ever bothered to do some sort of psychological study of them to see what really motivates them.

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    20. Do you realize that if any of the things you say were true , PM seekers would have stopped seeking hundreds of years ago .

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    21. Some people are made of tougher stuff than others and can endure more suffering for a longer time. Those "veterans" over on BWF and other sites around the world are made of the toughest stuff to have lasted so long as they have. Maybe 99% of the others being less tough dropped out years ago due to boredom, frustration, disability, or death. But, even all those veterans will eventually follow the same path unless they are lucky enough to find a working design..

      I suspect if it was not for the single case of Bessler, the total number of pm seekers nowadays would be only about a few percent of what it actually is. His one case acts like magnet to pull people into the quest. But, what if it was all just a big hoax that he happened to be lucky enough not to get caught committing? That would mean over the last three centuries people have wasted millions of man-hours of labor for nothing! Everyone here will immediately say it can't possibly be a hoax because we read this or that in such a such a letter or some translation of one of his books. But, maybe there are other documents we haven't seen yet that, if we did, would immediately convince us he was a hoaxer?!

      Without a final working wheel that performs like his were reported to, there is no way anyone can definitely say at this time that he was not hoaxing. Right now, claiming he wasn't a hoaxer is just an opinion with nothing to back it up. It is like having faith in some weird religion's "teachings" because one heard some cleric preach it in church somewhere. It really means nothing as far as reality is concerned. All that matters is results and, so far, there are none when it comes to Bessler's wheels. All we have are dozens of different opinions and a lot of wishful thinking.

      I think anyone considering trying to solve the Bessler wheel mystery should keep that in mind before he even starts. If he does, he'll be taking on a high risk gamble that could waste a tremendous amount of his time, energy, and money and maybe even be detrimental to his physical and mental health and his relationships with his family and friends unless he's incredibly lucky enough to find success and relatively soon after he starts. God only knows how many others lost that gamble over the centuries that we don't know about. It could be millions for all we know!

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    22. Some things are meant to be for some folks , not everyone can be an Olympic athlete , not everyone can be a successful business man , not everyone can be a world champion boxer , not everyone can be a renowned artist , not everyone has the same capacity in certain qualities like not giving up etc etc.

      also "All we read about on blogs like this is how amazing Bessler's invention was." : its in the name and general topic this blog ...

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    23. @anon 13:11

      I have to agree with you that no one can at this time absolutely prove that Bessler was not hoaxing. However, I can accept that he was not hoaxing based on probability. What is the probability that he was hoaxing and also to make it look even more believable, he hid all of those clues that SoS is finding three hundred years later in his drawings? It seems very unlikely to me that a hoaxer would go to all of that extra trouble. Why do something like that for a hoax? But, it begins to make sense if we believe that he did it so that the secret of his genuine pm wheel would not be lost forever if it was not sold and he eventually died. I think I would be willing to bet my entire life savings that he was not hoaxing. Not my head, though.

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    24. Anon 13:11 wrote:

      "Without a final working wheel that performs like his were reported to, there is no way anyone can definitely say at this time that he was not hoaxing."

      Even if someone gets a pm wheel that works like Bessler's did, that doesn't prove Bessler's wheel was not a hoax. It could be possible that other genuine wheel, by coincidence, just happened to have the same performance as Bessler's hoaxed wheel. We need to find enough clues to give us the actual design of Bessler's wheel so we can see that it matched that of the later genuine pm wheel which would then verify that Bessler's earlier wheel was not hoaxed. Hopefully guys like that SoS can find enough clues to tell us what design Bessler actually used. It's too bad we don't have some piece of any of Bessler's original wheels to study because it could tell us a lot. A single lever would be enough and, who knows, maybe one is sitting in some museum right now in a display case and nobody knows exactly what it is!

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    25. It’s a curious fact that SoS posts some comments concerning so-called clues he claims to have found and some people seem to believe them. I have posted far more clues based on much clearer evidence which many more people either believe, ignore or dismiss or do believe but don’t go public about them. Time will tell who is right.

      JC

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    26. Yes JC, I agree. It's as if SoS has arranged for his followers to post complementary comments every time he appears!

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    27. @JC
      Hmm...I think the secret of SoS's popularity here over the years is that he keeps things very simple and makes everyone feel like an amateur numerologist when he suddenly appears and reveals some new clue to us. Your clues tend to be too mathematical and harder for people to follow and understand. Most won't even bother to read them because of that.
      Last year you said you were going to get away from that and show us more drawings, photos, and videos, but you failed to keep that promise. SoS on the other hand arrives, drops tantalizing hints about some amazing clue he's found to get everyone's attention, and then reveals a nice surprise clue to us which is always new and interesting. Some of your clues are over a decade old already and still have not led to a working wheel which is probably why many don't trust their validity.
      Also, he has that hocus pocus psychic element added to everything he does which makes his fans think he has magical powers to bring them ultimate truths. He gives everyone an entertaining magic show why you give everyone a boring geometry lesson!
      I think you would do well to study his methods and try to copy them.
      Like any good messiah figure, he always promises to return in the future with more wonders yet to be revealed before he takes off to tend to his offline life which makes it sound like he 's ascending back to heaven or something. That gets everyone wondering when he'll return and what he'll be bringing with him when he does.
      I think he'd make a perfect cult leader if he wasn't here! Lol!

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    28. Lol! Sounds like while John was telling everyone here how a top hat is made, SoS was busy pulling rabbits out of that hat. The kids here just love all those cute little rabbits!

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  8. Here are some of the many clues SoS has delivered to us over the years that those new to this blog might want to search for:

    > He showed the many times the number 25 shows up in the MT drawings and how that indicates Bessler's levers were shaped like that letter.

    > He found "Bessler's Lucky Ratio" which is 0.777777 and that when multiplied by the radius of a wheel tells us how far from the center of the axle the lever pivots were located. Others here also began to find that ratio in Bessler's drawings.

    > He claimed that the "Happy Face Clue" of MT 13 indicates that design is the last one Bessler worked on before he found a way to modify it and turn it into a runner which made him very happy. SoS also pointed out that that drawing contains the most religious symbolism of any drawing in MT and is special in that way.

    > He pointed out to everyone that MT 10 only had 15 levers and not the 16 it is usually shown having.

    > He found the "Double DT Portrait Clue" that shows the fingers holding the glasses in the 2nd DT portrait of Bessler point to his nose in the 1st portrait when the two portraits are aligned edge to edge. The suggestion was that the glasses should be put on the nose and this was Bessler's way of telling us to study Bessler's eyes in the 1st portrait. Around that time Ken B managed to find a Y shape lever design using Bessler's eyes and the pattern of wig curls in the first portrait!

    > He pointed out that bizarre and very hard to find "Severed Head Clue" in the MT Toys Page.

    > When people started to think that severed head put a curse on those who looked at it, SoS tried to assure them it was not cursed, but, if it was, he then found "The AP Wheel Blessing Clue" and showed how Bessler had hidden his lucky ratio in it along with a depiction of the crucifixion of Jesus so that those who viewed it would be blessed and have good luck.

    > In this current blog he has provided us with the "Double Octagon Clue" and the "Three Eyes Clue" in the DT drawing of the Kassel wheel drums, but thinks that there are far more clues hidden in that drawing.

    Who knows what interesting new clues he will have for us in the future!

    Paul

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    1. He has an impressive record, Paul. He should have his own blog. Maybe someday all of his clues can be put out as a book? When you wrote that he found the number 25 so much in MT and Bessler's levers looked like that number you should have also mentioned that means that the levers actually looked like the letter Y which is the 25th letter of the alphabet. I'm also looking forward to future clues from him. I don't think he's ever come here without having some of them for us. He's kind of like the Santa Claus of Bessler clues!

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    2. You know it's Ken B. right

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    3. SoS is a very superstitious person and he's always telling people to carry lucky charms with them. He claims you need to have one with one or more number 7's on it for maximum luck. He mentioned last year how he had a serious accident while cleaning some muck out of a clogged rain gutter. The ladder he was on slid sideways and he fell about ten feet and landed forcefully on his side. His head slammed against the ground and only missed a large rock by inches! The ladder also fell on top of him. Miraculously, he had no injuries at all and he attributes that to several of those lucky charms he never leaves the house without. If something like that happened to me I think it would also make me a believer in those lucky charms of his.

      Anyway, I saved an image of the lucky clues he found in the AP wheel which he claimed were very powerful and would neutralize any negative bad luck that might have been put into the severed head clue in MT. SoS said just looking at these AP clues will bring the viewer some good luck. He also recommended people make a drawing on paper of the AP wheel and carry it with them at all times. He was very serious about that. So, if your current luck sucks, you might want to give it a try. Here's a link to the image he posted then:

      https://postimg.cc/WdpKzhGZ

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    4. OK enough! Please! It’s obvious there are various alter egos masquerading as SoS and others and possibly Ken. I deduced this from the comprehensive collection of misnomers incorrectly identified as clues by SoS an pd others. Ignore them they are false trails which won’t help in our quest.

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    5. @JC

      People "masquerading as SoS"? No, I don't think so. I can tell the real SoS when he comes here because no one gives us clues like he does. I also notice that he breaks his clue comments up into parts to make sure no trolls can add anything to them. Some here started doing that about two years ago when a troll attacked this blog impersonating various regular posters and almost drove you to shut it down permanently!

      I've seen your tactic of trying to discount SoS's clues in the past by declaring them "false trails" which is obviously due to you being envious of the progress he keeps making. The reality is that since the beginning of this year when you gave us your nearly useless "Big Reveal" after months of boasting how amazed we would be by it (we weren't), you haven't shown us anything new. Your latest "progress update" was just an announcement that you knocked some more items off of your wife's ever growing job list for you! How exciting. I think your next "progress update" could be an announcement that you planted some bushes in your yard. I'm sure it won't have anything to do with the wheel you claim to be working on!

      So, you are convinced that SoS is giving us "false trails"? Okay, how about you find two perfect and parallel pentagons in those two wheel drums in that DT drawing for us which SoS did for octagons? I'm sure we'd all like to see them. Also, I don't know what "comprehensive collection of misnomers" you are talking about. If you are referring to that list Paul provided, he mentioned earlier in this blog that he collects SoS's clues and gives them names to identify them. I found his names appropriate.

      If anyone on this blog could use some good luck in his search for the secrets of Bessler's wheels, it is certainly you. I think a good place to start is by stopping to put down others when their approaches don't happen to agree with yours.

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    6. I published my analysis of the two wheel drawing in DT, last year with correct details and both graphic, numerical and textual clues providing clear evidence of the five mechanisms Bessler insisted were needed in his wheel. If you missed it, or more likely ignored it, that’s not my fault. Those who choose to follow SoS’s clues are welcome but I’d prefer it if he didn’t post them here as they are misleading.

      JC

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    7. @JC
      I'd like to see a link to that analysis you did of the two wheel drawing in DT last year because I don't remember seeing it. Otoh, I suspect people here will be talking about that double octagon clue SoS found in this blog for years to come. It's a clue that's hard to ignore or explain away.

      As for SoS misleading anyone, that's really a matter of opinion and mainly yours because you see his clues as contradicting your approach. Maybe the problem is that you cannot even consider the possibility that what you think are clues really aren't clues or that you've misinterpreted them if they are? In that case you will consider any clues by anyone that don't match yours as "misleading" people and try to make those providing those clues feel unwelcome here. But, maybe it is you who is really doing the misleading and you're not even aware that you are?

      Actually, I think it's a good thing SoS does post his clues here and I hope he continues. I've noticed whenever he shows up, the comment count on a blog always go way up. He seems to stimulate debate and people's interest in Bessler and his wheels which is good for promoting the subject as well as selling books about it. Based on all of the book ads you stick at the top of every other blog, I assume that you do want to increase book sales. In the absence of a working wheel, book sales are the next best thing!

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    8. From anon 01:37:

      "I suspect people here will be talking about that double octagon clue SoS found in this blog for years to come."

      Oh yeah? Well, maybe after they see this, they will be talking about the "Double PENTAGON Clue" for years to come!

      https://postimg.cc/4mzpvFbQ

      Don't worry, John, ol' Shemp is looking out for your pentagon theory.

      Shemp

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    9. FYI
      Occasional there are comments about the frequent posts advertising the books which I sell. There is no money in it for me other than trying to cover the costs in maintaining my web sites. I pay £18 per month to the hosting platform, plus a sum every year for each domain I own. I had to let three other domains go last year to try to reduce costs. It’s one of the reasons for my blog, which (so far) is free. For several years book sales were good, but now they have reduced significantly and I may have to let more of the web sites go. Unless, of course I finish the wheel and it works!

      JC

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    10. JC: "For several years book sales were good, but now they have reduced significantly..."

      I think all books sales are in trouble nowadays because people are trying to cut costs and so are too cheap and lazy to read and concentrate on an actual book especially if it's technical in some way. They prefer to be entertained with online videos or cable tv shows. When they do read it's usually free stuff off of the web. Even libraries are slowly turning into publicly funded internet cafes. We're entering a "post literate" world nowadays and it will only get worse over time. Even the owner's manuals that used to come with products have been replaced with one or two page "quick start" guides and some people won't even take the time to read them!

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    11. John .. have you considered a facebook page dedicated to Bessler with reference to your books for sale ? - while I am not a big fb fan or user, apparently the younger generations are, along with You Tube for their news etc - if people have heard the story the old fashioned way they have probably already found their way to BW.com and here to your blog by now, and bought the books as excellent background and reference material - perhaps you can widen your appeal and exposure that way ?

      -f

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    12. Lol! Weirdest ending I've ever seen to a blog here...JC's pentagon theory saved from the dumpster at the last minute by a reincarnated Stooge...PERFECT!

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    13. Thanks fletch, I’ll have a think about. My granddaughter says fb is passé but her suggestions are way too incomprehensible to me, but I’ll delve a little deeper

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    14. Advertising a book on the internet is like throwing a little diamond onto a fifty mile long beach covered with the same size grains of sand. You'll know it's there...somewhere...but others will only discover it by accident if at all. You can "pay per click" on various social media sites and search engines. But that can run up a really big bill fast because, if you're lucky, maybe only one click in hundreds will actually result in a sale and you'll always be losing money unless there's unusually high demand for your book's topic which there usually won't be. With all of the ad blockers everyone uses nowadays, few will even see such an ad. Also beware the book marketing hucksters out there who try to convince you they know the secrets of successfully marketing your book. All they really know is how to sucker people out of their money by selling them financial dreams based on methods that do not work.
      Just list your book on Amazon? Fine, but keep in mind that they list about a thousand new book titles per day! You'd have more luck selling a book if you scrawled its title in chalk on the sidewalk in front of a bus stop in your town! Lol!

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    15. I think it takes a special kind of person to be interested enough in Bessler and his wheels to spend money for books about him. That person must have average to above average intelligence, interest in technical subjects, and a distrust of the negative pronouncements of the all knowing scientific establishment about such things like pm machines. Also beneficial is if that person has some building skills and is thinking about actually trying to build a pm wheel of some sort. Maybe only one in a hundred people, all males, will check all the boxes for these qualities. Because of this, sluggish book sales should be considered the norm. However, if someone finally builds a working wheel, then the book sales could soar into the stratosphere!

      Paul

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    16. Agreed. A successful runner will have mainstream feverishly buying and digitally searching John's books to compare to the runner and its provenance. The interest factor and relevance in today's energy hungry economies would be through the roof because it would make a compelling "feel good" story in a world short on good stories of resilience and taking on the establishment and winning. Pink unicorns do exist every now and then.

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    17. Bessler wheel secret finally found!!!

      https://postimg.cc/pyDM0hbv

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    18. @anon20:54
      That isn't a unicorn! It's the rarer duocorn. I get them in my backyard every once in a while. But, the one's I usually get are blue in color. I usually see them after a night of heavy binge drinking.

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    19. @Anon 02:26

      You might be adding to much blue curaçao to your mixed drinks. Try cutting back on it and that should turn the color of the unicorns you're seeing back to pink again. FYI unicorns only come in a few natural colors and blue isn't one of them. Hope this info can help you.

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    20. @anon 20:54
      What amazes me is that fancy AI program you used was too stupid to know that a UNIcorn only has one horn and not two. Any six year old knows they only have one horn. So much for AI solving our all of our problems for us!

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