Monday, 11 October 2021

Bessler’s Wheel in the Future.

When someone finds the solution to Bessler’s wheel I don’t know how, or even if, it will affect the world we live in, but I do know that concerns regarding the changing climate could introduce a whole new raft of requirements which our existing technologies will struggle to deal with.

We are constantly being urged to reduce consumption of fuel, of all kinds.  This, it is suggested, will help diminish the amount of greenhouse gas currently being produced and consequently warming the planet. This potentially leaves a huge gap in the right kind of energy being generated. We know it’s got to be clean and cheap and at some point I think Bessler’s wheel will be considered as an option, but not until it’s proved viable.

Most of us believe in Bessler’s claims and if a working model is produced, it may cause some indigestion initially among the scientific community, but once they’ve swallowed their antacids they will pounce delightedly on the new (old) technology and take it to heights undreamed of by our mechanical selves.  

By that I mean that the mechanical answer to Bessler’s wheel might be translatable to other systems unallied to gravity.   Don’t ask me to be more specific, I don’t know exactly, although I have some ideas, but I know that a simple mechanical design which converts linear motion into circular motion has the potential to be included in other systems and I look forward to seeing if I’m right and what they might be.

JC

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  1. John Collins, I think you are a visionary------------------------Sam

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  2. If and when a working reproduction of one of Bessler's wheels comes along, the scientific community will have it all explained in no time. They will tell us that it's probably not true perpetual motion such as the kind that can run forever and so it does not violate any of the laws of thermodynamics. But don't expect them to get too excited over it anymore than they got excited over Crookes' 1873 radiometer or Strutt's 1903 radium electroscope which was originally mistakenly thought to be a perpetual motion machine. They will dismiss Bessler's wheel as a nice invention with little practical value and finally acknowledge that Bessler was not a liar with a fake wheel. Three hundred years late but better late than never. Meanwhile they will be focusing their attention on making fusion reactors a reality since they look like a serious way to put a permanent end to Climate Change.

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    1. I found this image of Strutt's radium powered electroscope:

      https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/radium-pmm.gif

      Here's how it worked:

      "Physicist R. J. Strutt (1842-1919) built a radium electroscope in 1903. It continued its motion for an incredibly long time. An evacuated quartz glass bulb contained an inner glass capsule with a small amount of radioactive radium. The electron emission from the radium (A) charged the gold-leaf leaves (C) which slowly moved apart until they touched the metal foil on the inside of the chamber and discharged. Then the charging and discharging cycle started over again. This process was limited by the decay life of the radium isotopes, which means that the charging gradually decreased over time. A very long time. The half-life of the isotope Radium-226 is 1601 years. Then the charging rate would be only half what it was initially, but the action would still continue."

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  3. Anon: They have done a good job of keeping the cat in the sack; but once it is out it will be the primary energy source.

    John Collins: You are correct. Motion in a straight line can be transferred into a circular line with no loss of motion. You can also release a mass from circular motion and it will move in a straight line; again with no loss of motion. The same formulas used for mass moving in a straight line can be used for mass moving in the arc of a circle.

    In Bessler’s wheel the sum of each particle of mass times its arc velocity is the momentum of the large wheel. This large momentum of the large wheel can be transferred to the small internal masses. It is not surprising that no change in velocity is detected (in Bessler’s time) as the momentum of the large wheel is shared with the small masses.

    The small masses (whatever they were) could have a much higher velocity than the larger wheel. This would allow them to rise inside the larger wheel. This increase in energy could be used to cause a potential imbalance.

    The mass could rise hundreds of times higher than it could in Bessler’s wheel.

    If this same event were to occur with another type of force (magnetic, electric, ???) then that force would have to be a uniform force field. The same force at 20 cm, 20 m, 20 km. And the force will have to cost less to make than the energy produced.

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  4. There is a possibility that BW could become more popular than the windmill or solar power systems...

    Because...

    It would be highly reliable...
    Not dependent on weather conditions...
    For its steady power output...
    For Not really requiring a prime land location...(even subterranean regions would do)
    For its affordability...(how many of us can afford a windmill or solar power system)
    For its negligible maintenance...
    For its durability...
    For its Novelty...
    For its safety...
    For its simplicity...
    For its ruggedness...
    For its rigidity...
    For its easy portability...
    For its easy repair work...
    For its sturdiness...
    For its artistic arrangement and parts movement...(interesting and beautiful to observe)
    For its versatility...(can even function in a ship's belly not visible externally or every home can have one installed in its basement)
    For the environment friendly and bio degradable materials used in it...
    For its ability to function in enclosed or protected, secured spaces...( No fear of storm damage)
    For its power to size ratio efficiency...
    For its everlasting life expectancy...(would continue to perform in such places where the wind or solar power systems can't be installed...
    For its ability to run on an invisible energy source...
    For its ability to run a directly attached machine or produce electricity through a generator...(dual use)
    For its ease in braking when not in use...
    For its ability to be assembled even by illiterate guys...
    For its ability to function non-stop round the clock...
    For its ability to power low powered devices as well as heavy duty ones...
    For its use over land, below land, on mountain tops, inside mountains, over and under the sea, in dessert areas, in polar regions...etc.,
    For its day and night use...(24/7)
    And, for its use in toys or decorative objects...

    Please see if the above list can be further updated...





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    1. It’s a comprehensive list Suresh, although I think there are some duplications, but I will leave fir others to update. For me it is as I have described - cheap, low tech, clean, portable.

      JC

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    2. For the fact that its FREE.
      That triumphs over everything else. It's going to be a no-brainer.
      Nobody would want to pay anymore for what they know is free. Like paying for air.
      It being environmentally friendly is just a bonus. If it were the opposite,it would still become the default energy source in the world

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    3. "For its power to size ratio efficiency..."

      Right! Everyone will want to have a machine the size of a barn attached to his house to power it. Lol!

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    4. @ anon. It doesn't have to be the size of a barn. The denser the material the heavier it is. Think about it like this, instead of having a wheel thats 100m in diameter and 1 feet thick. You could have 1 wheel that's 5m in diameter and 20 feet thick. That seems more portable,dont tou think?

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    5. And the 100m wheel wins!

      Best regards
      BNR

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  5. Hello, John! You wrote the right thing, according to me: "a simple mechanical design which converts linear motion into circular motion". A fall-less fall.

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  6. Mornin John .. excuse the pun - the climate is more receptive today to a free-energy solution that does not increase a countries carbon footprint, and could potentially reduce it per capita. In fact, its appearance might create some welcome leverage for a positive and tangible change in that direction, at last, if uptake is widespread and not political suicide. Given that governments and corporations have a penchant for endless ideology, discussion papers, report writing, and hollow rhetoric and glad-handing, designed to win and influence the minds and hearts of voters and consumers in their favour, with no real substance. They are short on any meaningful delivery mechanism for their promises, except to create and sell a carbon credits market etc. Examples are the countless fly-in strategy meeting, such as the up-coming COP26 in Glasgow next month, and it predecessors and others like it for decades beforehand. People see it is, as hand wringing self-serving ideology (talking the talk) while China builds a new coal fired power station every week. And govts sell their in-ground coal reserves at never before seen prices. Maybe they will latch onto such an energy solution and it starts some real change and momentum for the good of the planet. If the will is there then it can be developed and help mitigate more than one current world problem at once. But that would take more than ideology and some real walk the walk. Politicians aren't known for this unless there is an upside to change. So it would have to augment the current situation and not create too much instability or threat for world markets and geo-economics, until the paradigm is well and truly bedded in. IMO.

    -f

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    1. The fossil fuel industry is doing everything they can to make sure we won't be fully switching over to pollution free, alternative energy sources until the last lump of coal is dug up and the last drop of oil is pumped out of the ground and burned. Whenever they start to hear too much "noise" being made about Climate Change being due to too much carbon being blown into our atmosphere and how we need to stop burning fossil fuels, they just increase the supply of fossil fuels to drive the prices down for a while. When people then see how cheap the fossil fuel energy is compared to the alternative energy, they go right back to using fossil fuels as usual and dismiss Climate Change as not really being that serious yet. Some will even say it's all a hoax and doesn't really exist. When the Earth's polar ice caps finally completely melt, they will still be saying it's nothing to be concerned about and we'll be burning more fossil fuels than ever then!


      Anonymous and PROUD of it!

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  7. In response to the many pluses;

    Machines and power grids will cost money just like every other build. And a grid would still have to be maintained.

    If it were easily portable then it would be small; and it would produce little energy. A useful machine would have a mass in 100 s of tons.

    Power to size ratio????; 100s of metric tons A mass reactor needs mass; It also needs to throw mass up a reasonable distance.

    You will need a tower built onto you basement. Yes barns

    You can build small machine that prove the functionality; but if you are going to product the power of a hydroelectric plant then you need the mass of a hydro plant.

    I think light houses are as nice looking a wind mills; and they don't chop birds up.

    And they can be under ground, under a corn field, under a desert, under a city.

    Big who cares; the bigger the better.

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  8. To bring an end climate change it would be necessary to gain control of the suns natural cycles, that technology might exist in thousands of years in the future, it does not exist now, and the Bessler wheel is not going to do it. The climate is going to keep changing as it always has throughout all the billions of years that Earth has existed .

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    1. That has always been my belief for many years. The climate changes periodically with or without the actions of humans. But we still need Bessler’s Wheel. As fletch said, “.. governments and corporations have a penchant for endless ideology, discussion papers, report writing, and hollow rhetoric and glad-handing, designed to win and influence the minds and hearts of voters and consumers in their favour, with no real substance.”. But sometimes people ‘vote with their feet’, and will demonstrate their opinion by buying into Bessler’s wheel despite official opinion.

      JC

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    2. Climatologists claim that the last decade has been the hottest in the last 125,000 years and the CO2 in our planet's atmosphere is the highest its been in 2 million years. Coincidence? The UN doesn't think so and recently stated that Climate Change is real, is here, and it's getting worse. Pretending it is not real will not make it all go away so we can keep right on burning as much fossil fuel as we want. One climatologist said that if the world does not start to get serious about eliminating fossil fuels, we will be waking up on a day in 2040 when we won't recognize our planet anymore! So far all that the world is doing is talking about it and setting goals for carbon reduction in the future and decades from now...maybe.

      As far as Bessler's wheels go, I don't think they will ever become a serious source of power. They are only a historical mystery for the builder and philosopher types to play around with. They've made no real progress in duplicating any of them since the last one was destroyed and probably never will. This mystery just generates a lot of opinions on the internet and nothing more. It's kind of like the fascination with that big pyramid in Egypt in the 19th century. They made all sorts of measurements of its inside passages and many books were written about the meaning of it all. They are still writing them today along with many youtube videos and websites devoted to the subject. What has come of it all? Nothing real! And that is exactly what will come of all of this chatter about Bessler's wheels.

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    3. @anon19:19
      You have a very negative view of the subject. Even if Bessler's wheels don't produce huge amounts of power it would still be nice to know how they worked. I recommend you see that Ken B book on the wheel. He found many previously unknown clues hidden in Bessler drawings and they describe a very interesting wheel design that many think could be the one Bessler used. If it is then it can give inventors a starting point to make improvements to boost its power.

      We have to stay positive and believe that our generation will be the one to finally find a solution and prove it by building working wheels. Being negative never accomplished anything. I do agree with you about climate change though. Everyone is talking about it but it is still ongoing and slowly worsening. That anon above who mentioned fusion reactors seems to think they will make climate change quickly go away. Maybe, but we can't wait to the end of the century for it. We need it as soon as possible.

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    4. Before anyone gets too enthusiastic about fusion power, he might want to see this video made by an actual scientist who worked on fusion reactor research for years:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JurplDfPi3U

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  9. Ballistic pendulums do not conserve energy. Ballistic pendulums do not conserved angular momentum (if the radius changes). Ballistic pendulums only conserve linear Newtonian momentum; every time all the time.

    Machines exist that reverse the ballistic pendulum. They transfer the motion of a large mass back into a small mass. Is this reverse motion going to conserve something different than the original motion? Newton said it will conserve linear (arc velocity) Newtonian Momentum.

    All you have to do is confirm that Newton’s Law of Conservation of Momentum is correct. Build a reversing machines and video tape it. Help replace the fossil fuel with a clean, free, energy source.

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  10. Hows building and demonstrating those machines gone for you pequaide? Start a discussion thread somewhere and following and exposing the science close the loop to confirm your theory. Build it and they will come!

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  11. Delbert...I still really feel you have a point but people here are not able to grasp it and that includes me, too...

    The motion of masses and the way energy is transferred is really fascinating and very mysterious to understand by many...

    See, a simple mechanism like BW takes decades to decode... There is still no concensus amongst us with regard to its working... JC sir's approach is different and so is Ken's...mine is also something different...

    Unless we make it more palatable others will simply not accept it... We all do have a point... There is no point in being harsh to one another as is happening... This is very uncivilized... without trying to understand deeply and dismissing something just makes no sense... internet is amazing except for the trolling... And there is no point in being arrogant too as...

    This is a great mystery and we have to make it interesting as it gets gradually unraveled... Some people lack the required patience... I find that you are working very hard... but I wish you could explain it more in a simple manner avoiding too many formulas and maths... People like me find it hard to follow...

    We need to ensure that things match with Bessler's work... Bessler left some hints and our explanation should agree with it... Bessler was very honest... Some of his clues are a direct giveaway...

    My assertion is that swinging of weights is involved... It plays a very active role... A game is enacted...we need to get that core Idea or movement first... This is composed of basically a design factor... A particular design, which is totally absent in Ken's video... This is even nowhere seen Bessler wheel forum... But Bessler has amply shown...we still haven't shown discretion in spotting it... That is why some people here lose tolerance... See how Ken reacts when pointed out... He goes all out in attacking anyone... This is being quite immature... Ofcourse, he is not crooked or clever but silly and foolish... Talks mountains yet childish when it comes to Bessler's design... I expect a raging storm in a short while... One should actually take it in a sporting way... He is still promoting his book here... Don't you think it is a blatant misguidance...
    Sometimes our ideas are right but unless we realise that the design factor is critical nothing is going to work...

    The core movement... The core design involved make all the difference... That is why it is taking so long... Bessler wheel was successful because of these two things... This is the only way to make Gravity work favorably... This Gravity gives all the initial kick before other principles take over... saying only Gravity being the energy source is not right... some other help is also involved without which Gravity would be helpless... You must have read my comment the other day... A booster shot is automatically delivered at every rotation... How do we make this happen???...

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  12. Long back I read in a dream analysis report that if you see a snake in your dream and get scared, especially, this is a cautioning of imminent realtime physical injury from a person close to you...

    This has turned out to be too true twice in my case... once long back and one just Last night...

    This early morning a saw a little snake and decided to draw others attention to it... but on a second look I found a larger aggressive snake in its place and it was preparing to attack me... I quickly tried to move away from it... Suddenly, I woke up and found myself on the floor with pain in my chest... I had fallen from my bed due to fear and actually hurt myself...

    Now, I suspect a left rib fracture as it happened earlier in the same rib... Pain is excruciating... I need to rush to a hospital now...for an X ray... Today's comment is written in a painful state...

    Last time it was my friend who punched me... This time the injury is self afflicted ofcourse inadvertently...

    That day, my other friends, instantly, pinned him down in a gutter and thrashed..and I intervened to save him and ensured he was locked up in a police Stn... shortly...till he repented... My x ray then revealed a left rib fracture...

    Some may term all this as being too superstitious but I keep seeing sense...

    Bessler wheel story is so much mysterical... Bessler changed his name... He believed in the divine... All this cannot be absurd...

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  13. A wheel will accelerate according to Newtonian physics F = ma. When a wheel interacts with other masses Newton’s linear momentum is conserved. Professors in our time do not believe this; they teach that energy is conserved and that Newtonian momentum is not conserved. They teach this without citing experiments. This teaching that interacting masses conserve energy is false; and it has damaged the advancement of free energy production.

    A spinning wheel can give all its motion to a very small mass; experiments prove that the motion conserved is Newtonian linear momentum mv.

    If you wrap a 100 kg wheel with a string; and hang 10 kg form the string it will have a velocity of 1.3355 m/sec after a drop of one meter. That is 10 kg dropped one meter.

    Place these 10 kg on a string one meter apart. Hang this string from the wheel and drop the string one meter. Now you only need to throw one kilogram up ten meters to reload the system; this is easier than throwing 10 kg up one meter.

    To throw 1 kg up 10 meters takes 14.0 units of Newtonian linear momentum: and the 110 kg moving 1.3355 m/sec has 146.9 units. These throwing wheel are experiments that can be found on the internet, ‘double yo-yo despin’, and many others.

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    1. "This teaching that interacting masses conserve energy is false; and it has damaged the advancement of free energy production."

      How dare those idiot professors teach such nonsense! Lol!

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  14. Good Delburt... Was better this time to follow... I think you are right with this but I am finding it difficult to relate it with BW working...

    I think BW operates on an entirely different principle... Weights are attached to levers in the case of BW not by wrapping the wheel with strings as in yo-yo if that's what you mean...

    If in case you feel I didn't get you right then kindly let me know how your yo-yo Idea can be incorporated with BW...

    Because some principles may look very promising but what matters is whether Bessler used it in his wheels...

    Even a simple lever has its own advantages... Any heavy work can be performed with ease by employing lever principle...

    We should remember that BW mechanism is very simple and the arrangement inside was very artistic...and further, the noises or sounds of falling and banging weights are quite unmistakable...

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  15. I suspect that a short weighted string and a weighted lever are extremely similar. I have no trouble believing that this is where Bessler got his driving component in his wheel. The mass on the end of the lever (hammer) could be flipped to a higher energy level. But then the mass must retract to a low energy level; all as the wheel rotates. I have not figured it out.

    Flipping the weight off the wheel, or above the wheel, makes it very easy.

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  16. I agree with what you have stated at the end dear... the main secret lies there... If you can figure out the other or the second secret you have it all there...

    I always knew from the beginning you do make a point...

    Many other people haven't yet come to this understanding... that is the driving component Bessler used... They sometimes refer to it as the prime mover or preponderance... I still don't fully understand what they mean by preponderance...

    The weights are the main actors and they make up the PM motion inside...

    I have a feeling we are somewhat near the truth... The problem comes when we veer off from here or go off track...

    It is both a mystery and a wonderment how BW secret has been evading mankind...

    I always keep wondering what really could be the reason...

    And it is another mystery as to when the world would see see the first wheel in running State... And, what the reaction is going to be like...

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    1. SK wrote "I still don't fully understand what they mean by preponderance"

      It means one side of his wheel was heavier than the other side because the center of gravity of the weights was kept on that side as the wheel turned. All other wheels fail because they cannot do that.

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  17. Turning linear motion into a circular one is not a big problem at all... But it would be quite absurd to think that a Bessler wheel could replace a car or truck engine... What I feel is BW can replace bullocks or other animals that help farmers in remote locations grind or pound their grains... Maybe even draw water from ground, in merry-go-rounds, replace windmills, run conveyor belts, etc.,
    BW may never really suite citylife...

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  18. If BW is presented to the world accompanied with an explanation from where it draws power and also a briefing on how Gravity works will it stand a chance before the noble committee???...

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    1. It certainly will! And since you know where the energy came from that Bessler's wheels produced and how gravity works, you can look forward to receiving a Nobel Prize in physics! You are to be admired...poor old John must be so envious of you!

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  19. You are kidding... I thought I was serious...
    What I feel is that Bessler wheel alone is not sufficient so the additional theories as bonus should draw some attention from the Nobel group... Ofcourse, it will carry Bessler as the actual inventor... We are just his descendants... All the efforts deserves some good award, isn't it?...

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    1. 'Ofcourse, it will carry Bessler as the actual inventor..."

      Why would it carry bessler as the actual inventor? Was it Bessler that invented it or applied for patent?
      I dont think it would nor should it. Whoever invents or reinvents it should be credited as the inventor. Not someone who supposedly left clues........ambiguous ones at best.

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    2. For the most optimistic, I think that if there is a Nobel prize, it should be shared with JC, because without JC no research on Bessler...

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  20. Finally a Japanese inventor has created true perpetual motion with only one moving part!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTJvpRml5kM

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    1. I actually built one of these years ago and it worked perfectly. What you don't see in his video is a powerful magnet located above where the steel ball is launched from the bottom of the tracks. The magnetic force on the ball helps it rise to a greater height so it can land in the funnel. You have to make it out of some nonmagnetic material like the brass he uses or the plastic I used in mine.

      I don't remember what happened to the one I built. My kids were playing with it and then it disappeared. I think my daughter mentioned that our damn dog started chewing on it or something. Thanks to the anon who posted the link to this video because now I'm thinking of building another one. If you put little paddles in the funnel then the steel ball can spin them before it goes through the hole and you can make your little pm machine do some work like raise a weight or spin a shaft with fan blades on it. This is nice and quick way to show pm is possible even though it's not very powerful.

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    2. @anon 12:01

      What you see in that video is not real. It's a high resolution, virtual reality computer animation and a well made one. Making them requires some expensive software which apparently that Japanese youtube channel owner has access to. He has other examples of his handy work on his channel.

      Also, I doubt anon 20:09's claim that he made that perpetual motion machine years ago out of plastic and that it "worked perfectly". Magnetic fields, like gravity fields, are conservative and just putting a strong magnet over the rising steel ball will not cause any net increase in the steel ball's kinetic energy as it travels around a closed path within the magnetic field. That's because that same magnetic field that adds kinetic energy as the ball rises is later removing the exact same amount as the ball descends, goes through the funnel, and then down the ramp to begin the cycle again.

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  21. Rolling... sometimes I feel guilty about all this development...300 years back that man laboured and struggled so much with his wheel and after so much of efforts ended his life tragically... His writings and hints are still an inspiration to some of us... Our efforts are nothing comparitively...

    JC sir brought out so much of info about him spending so much of his life... Which still keeps us going with this wonderful blog...

    Frankly speaking, what I have contributed so far is just tidbits...

    Without Bessler history and JC sir's blog we wouldn't be here spending most of our time...

    Bessler wheel is still in the dark as far as the world is concerned... with the advent of BW the PM myth would be shattered and the world will have yet another renewable energy source...

    How can we ignore that legend?...

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  22. You say his clues are ambiguous... Well, if Bessler had been slightly more generous it would have been a direct giveaway... And, the story wouldn't have been so much intriguing and puzzling... Consequently, we wouldn't have had the challenging quest...

    Cracking this mysterical case wouldn't have been interesting... It is like any other deep mystery of the universe... With so many of us at it still no one has been successful...

    Thanks to Bessler for being so discreet... They say everything happens for the larger good... BW may see the light of the day at the most appropriate time... When there is an expectation of clean and free energy...

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  23. Why didn’t Bessler sell the wheel for what he could get? He would have been the honored guest of every Duke and King in Europe for the rest of his life. Instead he worked for them for a common wage.

    Bessler’s wheel would be limited to water pumps and grinding mills; but if you throw above and beyond the wheel the energy output is unlimited. The wheel could be 200 tons throwing 5 tons up 60 meters every few seconds. That would be a constant drive force of (5 ton * 60) 300 tons. The output would be equal to a moderate sized hydro plant.

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  24. Perhaps, JC sir would be better able to tell us why Bessler didn't settle for a lesser sum...
    I think the since the price was fixed there was no offer... also, as the wheel was veiled people were sceptical...

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    1. IIRC with that last smaller wheel he built in 1745 when he was starving and the buyer refused to pay him what he wanted for it in advance, Bessler got so desperate to make any money off of it that he announced in some newspaper that he would sell the wheel for far less to anyone who wanted it. Even then at a bargain price he couldn't find a buyer. The depression caused by that last failure to sell his invention may have been what finally pushed him over the line to commit suicide by jumping off the top of that windmill if that's how he actually died but it could also have been an accident. We may never know for sure.

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    2. His local magistrate who was supposedly looking after Bessler’s needs didn’t respond to his requests for money to buy wood for his fireplace or food for his family.

      I’m not aware of any documents saying he wanted to sell his wheel for less. I have my doubts about this because he had the order from Mannsberg, his landlord to build a model of his wheel which he had accomplished. That order could not be ignored and could result in punishment for Bessler if he had gone ahead with such a plan.

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    3. Bessler wrote to Mannsberg that the last wheel had been completed on April 14th, 1745, but the latter never came for the wheel or paid for it. Apparently, the story of the wheel being offered for public sale for a "good price" in May of 1745 (only a month after it was completed) originates with a past BWF member, a native German, named "Hotzenplotz" who claimed he saw it mentioned in a 1745 newspaper that he found. The story was never verified, but it sounds like it may have been true. Maybe Bessler thought that by publicly announcing that he was looking for another buyer that would then help motivate Mannsberg to pay Bessler for wheel? Most contracts have clauses in them that render them "null and void" in the event that either party fails to fulfill his obligations. To Bessler, Mannsberg's failure to pay for the wheel by a certain date could have made Bessler feel free to sell it to someone else. I suspect, however, that his "good price" would have been far less than 100,000 thalers depending on how desperate he was and he was very desperate. I think he would have jumped at an offer of a single, lump sum payment of only 50,000 thalers.

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    4. Yes Mannsberg wanted the wheel but was unable to come and collect it because King George forbade all channel crossings due to the Jacobite rebellion of 1745. It began in August 1745 and ended in January 1746, by which time Bessler had died.

      “ The British government was concerned by reports of an invasion fleet being prepared at Dunkirk but it is unclear how serious these plans were. Over the winter of 1745 to 1746, Maréchal Maurice de Saxe was assembling troops in Northern France in preparation for an offensive into Flanders, while Dunkirk was a major privateer base and always busy.[30] Threatening an invasion was a far more cost-effective means of consuming British resources than actually doing so and these plans were formally cancelled in January 1746.”

      JC

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  25. Delburt... I have been thinking about it since this morning but tell me how do you throw above and beyond and at the same time ensure the wheel rotates continuously... And, if you still do work it out it would be different from BW...and, if it is a different design then it probably won't work as there is only one design that will work and that is BW design...

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  26. How about his death sir?... Was it accidental?...

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    1. It was reported as an accident in local news at the time.

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  27. Must have slipped or lost his balance... someone shoving him off or suicide seem far fetched... Thanks anyway, sir... I must admit that you are not less than an encyclopaedia on Bessler... You have visited his place to create the biography... most of your efforts have been researching the inventor than the invention itself...more than anyone else I think it is you who has researched Bessler?...
    Really great... We are all basking in the work done by you...
    I suggest you write a sequel this time elaborating how the scientific community is being reckless ignoring a legend like Bessler... When we are all so much convinced about Bessler why the authorities and the agencies like NASA are not looking into bessler's claims...how many such mysteries have been carelessly abandoned...is really the physics laws on PM coming in the way...
    There seems be a great misunderstanding...

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