I'm just coming to the end of the construction of my latest design for Bessler's wheel. I've maintained my belief in the same concept which makes his wheel possible for some considerable time as, for me, it is the only explanation for his success. The number of ways one can achieve this is limited but does not rule out severl variations, each of which is designed to move a weight a sufficiently large distance, quickly.
I have always born in mind his comment about the importance of incorporating his 'connectedness principle' within the design and although I had an idea what this might refer to, it wasn't until I saw the first completed mechanism on my new wheel, working, that I realised why he referred to it in this way.
As I was carefully assembling the pieces that made up the mechanism I was musing on the problem I might have in describing my interpretation of his 'connectedness principle' and I realised that it was a very good description, if you had to do it in two words, one of which was 'principle'. 'Connectedness' may seem like a made-up word but it is perfect for this situation.
I hope to more or less finish this version in a day or so, working around visiting familes, because it's Easter, but there will be some minor adjustments to make before it is completely finished. I know this because the connectedness principle requires some adjustments, the precise amounts of which, won't become obvious until the wheel's mechanisms are finished and fitted and shown to be working properly.
I'll let you know what happens, but even if it should fail to rotate I am convinced that I am on the right lines - the only lines to success.
JC
All the best John!
ReplyDeleteI am starting new project,and it is not a wheel,
ReplyDeletethe wheel come's later.The mechanisms is,falling,
shifting,lifting weights and more,the chance is slim,some tests bin encouraging.I hope someone will soon come up with working device and finally
put an and to this torture.
Good luck!
ReplyDeleteGood luck Vincent and thanks from me.
ReplyDeleteJC
Hi John,
ReplyDeletewhat have you changed from your previous design that you showed us?
Just some changes to the lever and the weights and the inclusion of what I think is the correct interpretation of the connectedness principle.
ReplyDeleteI've not been able to do any work on it today but hopefully tomorrow I'll finish adapting the mechanisms and then I have to allow for the adjustment to take best advantage of the principle I referred to.
JC
Dear John,
ReplyDeleteSuch idea of a machine able to work continously and at same time being ablr to do some work is imposible. Is known that energy is always conserved so you can't not create such a wheel.
In the Bessler's wheel the energies that applies(relevant) are:
Energy E = Kinetic + Potential
any work done should come from the difference of Energy:
Work W = Ei -Ef
You see There is no way you can do work without changing whether the Kinetic or potential Energy. And as in your case the system has to return to its initial state to be perpetual then It turns out to be impossible without adding energy from some source outside itself!
Thanks for your comments, anon. I was taught this information when I was about 14 years old and am now 67, having spent the intervening years firstly as an aircraft technician in the Royal Air Force and subsequently an an engineer. So I am extremely familiar with the basic science you wish to inform me about.
ReplyDeleteThe evidence that Bessler's claims were genuine is now so strong that I have sought and have found a way around the apparent impasse presented by such arguments as yours and I hope to offer proof of this fact in the next few weeks.
JC
Go for it John ! All the best.
ReplyDeleteYou are making me very curious, John! All the best and keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteThanks as usual guys. I have the lot. I have the full design complete with angles, numbers, lengths, weights, the concept - everything.
ReplyDeleteNow all I have to do is put it together. If it works and I believe it will, I probably won't say anything until I've arranged a few things so bear with me. As I said previously, if it doesn't work I'll say so too.
JC
Hi John,..just a question? In your opinion,what do you think was meant by Bessler's remark on page 275 of Appologia,when he said he allowed his close friends to adjust the bolts in the wheel axle to regulate the wheel.
ReplyDeleteDo you think there was a cam inside the large axle with which he could alter the timing to optimise the speed of the wheel.
It regulated a device, which when adjusted limited the amount the inner workings could run downhill.
ReplyDeleteTrevor, thought you were against a cam!
P,47.
Yes,..Only because Bessler said there was nothing satationary that hangs from the axle.
ReplyDeleteI just wondered why or how they could regulate the wheel.
I have always understood that the bolts altered the speed, Trevor, by applying a simple braking effect.
ReplyDeleteJC
trevor,
ReplyDeletenot using levers in my build, e.g. if a lever moved left and right, which caused the imbalance, the bolt could be used as a stop, to restrict the levers range of movement which reduces it's speed.
P.47
John, yes that could be,but don't you think to regulate the wheel using friction would not be a reliable speed control.
ReplyDeleteI would rather feel that the bolts regulated the wheel by restricting the differential between the unbalanced weights.
This was neccessary to accommidate the wheel to different loads it encountered.
I can imagine that when the weights got a bit exuberant,banging the sides too loudly,he would tell them to tighten the bolts a bit.
In fact if you think about it the appologia wheel could actually be the perfect centrifugal governor for the wheel.
Just a thought!
Yes Anon thats similar.
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