Thursday, 16 March 2017

My Favourite Bessler Clues

I often get asked which of the many clues that are associated with Bessler are the best in my opinion, and which do I think will lead us to success.

There are textual clues as well as graphic, but I tend to favour the graphic ones, although there are a couple of pieces of text which in my opinion offer the most useful information and could help in our search for success.  But a single clue taken in isolation is hard to fathom and in my opinion is best understood when considered in conjunction with others.  Bessler had no desire to lie, if only because it would reflect badly upon him at a later date, even if the wheel was sold and accepted as a success.  But he could and did write ambiguously.  Much of his text when referring to the wheels, appeared to be either contradictory or even nonsensensical, but a search for anything constructive while attempting to accept the apparent meaning in an experimental way has led me to some interesting understandings.  Here are some of my preferred clues, not in any particular order of merit for me.

For instance Bessler says, "...these weights are themselves the PM device, the 'essential constituent parts' which must of necessity continue to exercise their motive force so long as they keep away from the centre of gravity."  This tells me that whatever arrangement is responsible for continuous rotation, it has to be ultimately gravity which enables it.

-and, “Alternately gravitating to the centre and climbing back up again." this seems obvious but is ambiguous, look for an alternative meaning which fits the words.

Or these ones,  “'Lightly' cause a heavy weight to fly upwards!” 

“I don't want to go into the details here of how suddenly the ‘excess’ weight is caused to rise." 

  “The inward structure is so arranged that by disposed weights once in rotation they gain force from their own swinging."

“This pressure of two fingers was applied until the moment when a single one of the weights present inside the body of the device began to fall.”
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The above four quotes give me a feel for the mechanical action, but no detail.  The next one does give a little detail: "So then, a work of this kind of craftsmanship has, as its basis of motion, many separate pieces of lead. These come in pairs, such that, as one of them takes upan outer position, the other takes up a position nearer the axle. Later, they swap places, and so they go on and on changingplaces all the time."  Very informative, and as before, don't take the words at face value, look for alternative ways to understand what he says.

This following text is the most sensible piece of advice given out by Bessler and I think it applies to almost all designs currently being worked on; "Many would-be Mobile-makers think that if they can arrange for some of the weights to be a little more distant from the center than the others, then the thing will surely revolve. I learned all about this the hard way. One has to learn through bitter experience.”  It seems as though the design features he is dismissing are an absolute necessity for a gravity-enabled wheel to revolve continuously, but as it stands, his advice appears to rule it out utterly.  Do not be fooled, he admits elsewhere that his design relies on weights being a little more distant from the center than the others,so how do we explain this?  It's another example of his textual sleight-of-hand; it comes down to working out how you get the weights to be a little more distant from the center than the others.

There are many other clues in the text but the following one is my absolute favourite and one which is a supreme example of Bessler's deviousness, containing ambiguity, apparent nonsense and absolute truth, if you can work it out.  "A great craftsman would be that man who can "lightly" cause a heavy weight to fly upwards! Who can make a pound-weight rise as 4 ounces fall, or 4 pounds rise as 16 ounces fall".  I understand it completely with the proviso that there are two possible outcomes either of which it can argued, he meant but which hands-on building will resolve.  There are other translations available but I like this one the best and they are each decipherable in the same way.

I'll discuss the graphic clues in my next blog, but I warn you I shan't be giving much away.

JC


27 comments:

  1. "Many would-be Mobile-makers think that if they can arrange for some of the weights to be a little more distant from the center than the others, then the thing will surely revolve. I learned all about this the hard way. One has to learn through bitter experience.”

    If Bessler ruled the above sentence out, then what does the opposite say ?
    The keyword is "Many" and "more", change to "Few" and "less".

    "Few Mobile-makers .... a little less distant from the center than the others ...."

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  2. I read 300 clues on the besslerwheel forum. More I read more I convince that we are dealing with a genuine "self sustaining device". The best clue in my opinion is this:

    "As long as the upper weight remains outside the center of gravity, it incessantly exercises universal motion from which the essential constituent parts of the machine receive power and push"

    This is an extremely good information. Theoretically, we know that in order to make an overbalanced wheel, the center of gravity of the wheel must be on the upper side of the wheel. This clue definetely confirms the wheel is genuine.

    BS <-this is my initials an unfortunate coincidence :) Let me change my pseudonym to "yellow"

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    1. Yes that is a good clue, I only touched on a few and I'm pleased to discuss others.

      JC

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  3. Hello John,
    You wrote...
    ...This pressure of two fingers was applied until the moment when a single one of the weights present inside the body of the device began to fall.”

    Have you changed your mind regarding the one way wheel starting spontaneously.

    Kind regards

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  4. Uneqk, the one way wheels self started!!! Sorry if it doesn't fit your wheel design.

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  5. Uneqk, the one way wheels self started!!! Sorry if it doesn't fit your wheel design.

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    1. Uneqk, the first two wheels were one direction only and started spontaneously as soon as they were released. The second two could turn in either direction and needed a slight push to get them to begin to accelerate in one direction or the other. This description was written by a Fischer Von Erlach after his examination of the two-way Kassel wheel.

      JC

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    2. Hi John,
      I understand your based in the UK,
      Tuesday 28th March @ 9pm
      BBC 4 - Gravity and Me - you might find it interesting.
      Kind regards

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    3. Thanks for the reminder, I'll watch it.

      JC

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  6. John I really don't get what Bessler meant here;

    "It is impossible to construct any new machine except by using a certain type of material."

    Was he referring an exotic material?

    yellow

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    1. No,this was part of a comment on the use of materials of greater or lesser durability. If you have a PM machine then the more durable the material it's constructed from the better. He says that there is no material that will not eventually wear out, therefor you may call it a perpetual motion machine but it will only last as long as the materials of which it's constructed last.

      JC

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    2. Thanks John.

      I noticed something..may be a clue I don't know... MT1 is the only place in which Bessler gives a suggestion or correction you might say. He shows that in order to obtain an overbalanced action, there must be an inclination which he shows it with a dashed line. No other MT drawings has that type of thing.

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    3. Yes..I agree with you Yellow...You are now beginning to touch real clues..

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    4. Thanks Suresh. I am really trying very hard to figure out how Bessler did it. It is very frustrating...

      I saw Bessler's inventory after death. There were two fine magnets in the inventory. That is strange. In his writings, he didn't mention anything about magnets. Not a single word.

      I really wonder what the old German word meant "magnet".

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  7. In my view, Bessler might have tried to utilize magnets in the initial stages and, later discarded them...So, we need not go through the magnets now... Bessler wheel can be achieved without the inclusion of magnets... Gravity is the main driving force...It is the ingenuity he showed in the design which uses gravity both ways... On the ascending and descending sides, simultaneously... This can be achieved by incorporating very clever designing... Frustrating, ofcourse... When one is not on the right track...We all go through this stage in the beginning...But as we get onto the right track the onward journey is all the more interesting... Anyway, the good thing is you belief in the genuineness of Bessler story...

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    1. Suresh, I don't know... How come he never mentioned about magnets in a negative or a positive way. He even mentions about oil...No writings, no drawings, nothing about magnets...

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    2. That's probably because magnets are not required... Every BW chaser, including self, thinks of the power of magnets...Later, realizes they weren't used by bessler...If you use magnets then it can't be BW... Bessler would have mentioned it had he used the same in his final completion... Think of gravity only...The heaviness it creates in objects...It is somewhat similar to magnetism...But is weaker... Increases with mass...So he used lead... Heaviest metal...The secret is in the configuration.... Arrangement... Design... That's all...No magnets... pls don't waste time on magnets...It would take years... Then, finally turn out to be different from BW.. Valuable clues can be spotted in the poem and other writings...It is very simple...We need to imbalance the static wheel... Gravity Will take care of the rest... By the way, I think magnets can also be used in place of gravity...But then, we still need to figure out the BW design...

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    3. Although the comment “these weights are themselves the PM device,” could hint at magnets,( I’m not completely convinced that is the case).
      A.N.Other

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    4. Bessler said the weights were lead. But of course, he might have used iron or steel springs.

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  8. What happened to the color on this forum?

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    1. Sorry, got bored with current layout so I've been experimenting with some new layout!

      JC

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    2. I see, well I just want to let you know that I sent that drawing to your email. Let me know what you think.

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  9. Gees! I think a lot of confusion happens so often on account of our not knowing always to WHICH weights Bessler refers - the imbalancing ones or, the ones that accomplish energy gathering (primus motus). This last one being finally understood and achieved, then such extra energy might be applied directly against ground, it acting as an absolute inertial reference against which to push, rather than in an imbalancing scheme. (TIME is required for the displacement of weights into a position for causing imbalance. Here, in such an application as this, 'time is of THE essence,' and cannot be much wasted.)

    Springs store energy over periods of time or nearly instantaneously, whichever, these then to the be discharged over a select period just as displaced weights could. It is just that using the earth as a sink cannot be HIDDEN within. If it had not been necessary to keep all hidden, I am sure Bessler would have opted for the direct route.

    (Sorry for coming off all 'K.B. like' and going-on.)

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    1. No resemblance, I assure you James!

      JC

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    2. After some self-conflict and inner battle, somehow, I convinced myself Bessler used magnets :D I have a pet theory :) I am going to try it...

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  10. I really think that is so neat to see the work of his hands, even if it is just a s drawing..... or could we add are ye yet without understanding ? What is it really ............

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