I’m very confidant that I know and understand the basic concept and as far as I can tell, the current configuration fits within that concept and matches Bessler’s machine
I know http://Karl said the mechanism was very simple, but it’s not so easy to design and configure the correct construction, when you haven’t seen it in reality. The last piece of information came to me about two weeks ago and yet the answer was in front of my eyes for many years! My advice to those using his clues to find the solution should examine any puzzling bits of information and try to imagine how they might fit.
There were things that had to be done to improve the actions of the various parts, mostly loosening the stiff nuts to allow some limited lateral motion and then retightening just a little. I have tried to reduce friction but not at the risk of lateral motion interfering with overlapping mechanisms. I’ve already added washers to increase the spaces between the various parts, where their actions overlap adjacent ones. I counter my fears of too much friction by reminding myself that this wheel is supposed to be able to do work, which of course means it should be able overcome minimal friction.
I’ll make the connections via the closed loop screws using my venetian blind cord. The lifted weight has to move quickly, as I demonstrated in my old web site at http://www.besslerswheel.com/ and proved that this was Bessler’s instruction in my web site at https://www.gravitywheel.com/ - and was in agreement with Bessler’s advice.
Even though I believed I’d found the solution a couple of years ago, it has proved extremely difficult to get to this point and I’m still apprehensive that I may have missed something or got it wrong. It’s for this reason I’ve only posted deciphered codes and clues and not pictures of my models. But I have few doubts that this is the right configuration and all that’s needed is to connect the mechanisms and keep my fingers crossed that I’m right.
As I’ve said before; there are five mechanisms with five equal weights and Bessler’s connectedness principle controlling their actions. The cord is always taught and the wheel will be permanently out of balance. I thought I’d proved to everyone that at least five mechanisms were needed, at my old web site, but I cannot say at this time whether eight would work but I would point out Bessler’s hint in MT numbering which I detailed in my website at www.theorffyreuscode.com The Orffyreus Code back in 2009.
There is an oddity about the numbering of the woodcuts in MT. Bessler included the number of each illustration in his woodcuts, like those in the above illustrations. These are present up to and including number 104. They are of a similar style except for the numbers 52, 72, 92 and 102. In each of these cases the number two is drawn to look like a Z. All other examples of the letter two are shown in the usual curved way.
To solve this puzzle we need to look at the identified numbers to see what is special about them with relevance to Bessler. The twos help to point to their accompanying partners, namely 5, 7, 9 and 10. The first and most obvious fact is that the number 5 is identified. The only other numbers are the following odd numbers, 7 and 9. Why would this be done, I wondered. These numbers are similar to those internal angles in the pentagram, namely, 54, 72 and 90, it seems to me that ever since I discovered the pentagon and the ubiquity of the number 5, that Bessler seemed to be suggesting that his wheel would not work with an even number of weights and that 5 was the ideal number. So 7 and 9 weights would also work but it might be difficult to fit in to a wheel. The number 10 might include a double 5, I don’t know?
If you were to use my configuration with an even numbers of weights……it would fail. Bessler tried it with four and it could barely turn.You need to get the message and stop ignoring the elephant in the room - and also please forget the ‘Y’ shaped levers, they weren’t in Bessler’s wheel, and were a product of Ken B’s imagination. The suggestion that Bessler secreted his supposedly lucky number 7 in his drawings is ridiculous, and that’s not just my opinion. There is no evidence that Bessler even thought of the number 7 in any special way - in fact there could be a much stronger argument that 5 fulfilled that role. He was only interested in providing numerous hints and clues to anyone wanting find out how he did it. I think he loved the fact that he had everyone fascinated and mystified by his invention.
So this is my last attempt at completing Bessler’s wheel, after 65 years (if I include the simple balsa wood, glue and ball bearings I began with at the age of 15!). I sincerely believe this is the closest anyone has come to success and even if this fails I believe my explanation revealing how and why it does not conflict with any physical laws will lead to a successful conclusion- a working model of Bessler’s wheel.
I will describe I’ve how believe Bessler’s worked without conflicting with the laws of physics and used the force of gravity.
That’s the plan anyway! I’m trying to get this done and tested before the end of the year. Announcement planned on or about or around New Year’s Day, win or lose!
JC
John wrote: "The suggestion that Bessler secreted his supposedly lucky number 7 in his drawings is ridiculous, and that’s not just my opinion. There is no evidence that Bessler even thought of the number 7 in any special way..."
ReplyDeleteThen how do you explain away this recent clue that DoSoS found in that drawing he put on Karl's 1719 annual poem card?
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With respect, I don’t have to, because as I explained earlier, Bessler just used an existing decoration available to anyone. It has no hidden meaning other than providing a gentle religious flavour.
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"Bessler just used an existing decoration available to anyone."
DeleteAnd where can we find this "existing decoration available to anyone"? Also, why did he only use it on the 1719 card for Karl?
I think when DoSoS found a detailed version of SoS's "Y" shaped lever hidden in that 1719 card drawing that Bessler made for Karl, it must have shook John up a little. I don't think he (or we) were expecting something like that to so suddenly appear. Imo, it looks like some serious confirmation that Bessler did use those uniquely shaped levers in his pm wheels otherwise why hide one of the levers in his drawing? I will also be looking forward to seeing all of those "never before revealed" clues John claims to have that justify whatever lever shape his design uses.
DeleteFingers are crossed JC !
ReplyDeleteFinally...ALL will be revealed! I plan to celebrate by making this nice tasty English pudding cake the last week of this December!
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To anon 11:05. I don’t know, but I do know it wasc commons practice. Large numbers of book published in those centuries contain one or more such prints. If you think you’ve found some hidden information, publish it.
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JC: "As I’ve said before; there are five mechanisms with five equal weights and Bessler’s connectedness principle controlling their actions. The cord is always taught and the wheel will be permanently out of balance."
ReplyDeleteThe second part about the cord is always tight and the wheel being permanently out of balance sounds good. The problem I see is with the use of an odd number of weights. That would seem to produce a design that, every 36° of wheel rotation, shifts the three weights from one side of the axle to other. That should then cause the CoG of the five weights to oscillate from one side of the axle to the other with no net torque and then eventually settle down into an equilibrium configuration that puts three weights below the axle and two above it so the wheel becomes "bottom heavy" and stationary.
Of course, this is just a guess. I will also be looking forward to seeing how your Bessler workaround design solves this problem. You either have discovered a simple, but revolutionary mechanical system that was actually used by Bessler or you are totally on the wrong track and do not realize it yet. I'm hoping it's the first one since you've put so much into this over the years.
I'm a bit confused by JC's vague description of his wheel. Is he saying that he has five weight levers in it and that the cords between all of them are always tight? That seems impossible to me if he has levers swinging back toward the axle on his wheel's ascending side. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what his design is.
ReplyDeleteLol! And here we go AGAIN everyone! Some poor boob a few blogs ago was eagerly anticipating JC's disclosure before the end of LAST November! Last November was two days ago...anybody see any disclosure? Now JC is, yet again, slipping everyone another one of his now famous promissory sleeping pills when he says: "Announcement planned on or about or around New Year’s Day, win or lose!" Note the word "around" in there. That word allows him to glide right past the end of this year while STILL showing nothing. Then other naive boobs here will be hopefully anticipating disclosure "on or about or around" his 81st birthday. That will also glide by with zero being shown and, hopefully, everyone here will finally realize, as I did YEARS ago, that "around" as far as JC is concerned means NEVER! Don't believe me? You will when the spring of next year finally arrives and we've still seen nothing from him. No drawings, no photos, no videos, and no new clues. Why you might ask would he do something like that? It's really very simple.
ReplyDeleteYou see, just before he plans to "reveal all whether it works or not", he will spot some "new" clue in a Bessler drawing that he somehow missed before. He'll immediately think it must be the missing change he needs to make to get his shaky collection of five levers finally working right. He can't possibly reveal anything until he checks it out which, at the snail's pace he works, could take another six months or so. Besides, his family simply wouldn't hear of it. They want him to keep working on it to protect his great discovery and complete its perfection so that ONLY HE can get all of the credit for it. He could be 100 years old and they would still be telling him that!
Also my advice to the guy who wants to bake that star shaped cake to celebrate the disclosure is to delay the baking until AFTER JC reveals something. That means forever...but maybe cutting out those extra carb calories will help you lose some of your gut and make you healthier?
I'm probably a naive boob, but I still have faith that this time John will finally reveal the design he's been working along with some of his previously unrevealed clues that justify it. Yes he has disappointed many times in the past and I'm sure he's not too happy about that. However, I believe that this time will be different no matter how many new last minute clues he finds.
ReplyDeleteThank you anon 04:07. It will be out there for everyone to see.
DeleteAnon 00:19. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Anon 00:19 sounds like a very angry and frustrated individual to me. I'll be curious to see how he sounds after JC finally reveals all just like he's promised to do. No doubt anon 00:19 will then find something else to complain about. Some people just love to find fault in others while ignoring their own faults. They literally live for that.
DeleteJC wrote "I think he loved the fact that he had everyone fascinated and mystified by his invention."
ReplyDeleteAgreed. He must have felt like a king knowing that he was the only person in history who had ever constructed a working pm wheel. I wonder how he could bear to destroy a wheel after he had put so much effort into planning and constructing it? I would never be able to do something like that. I realize there was a security issue involved and I can only imagine that he destroyed a wheel after he already had plans in mind for the next larger and more powerful wheel. It seems the destruction of all of the wheels always preceded some move he made to a new town.
I don't think he destroyed them completely. He probably salvaged anything made of metal such as steel pivots, brass bushings, and metal hooks and screws. Even the lead weights could be melted down and recast into heavier weights. Most of the wood would probably have been used in a fireplace! We have to keep in mind that until he met Count Carl, his budget was tight and he needed to recycle as much as he could. Even pm wheel builders nowadays do the same thing.
DeleteHere's what Bessler originally intended to build on top of that hill in Fürstenberg to mill grains, but his cheapskate employer at the time did not want to pay the extra cost of constructing a true Savonius type windmill and so instead insisted that Bessler use cheap flat canvas panels inside an open roofed over top. Bessler tried to make his employer happy, but then one windy morning during construction of the low cost version, a sudden gust rapidly blew the panels around and one of them knocked Bessler right off the top of the structure to his death! Shortly after that unfortunate accident, Bessler's employer cashed in the life insurance policy he had taken out on Bessler and used the money to buy himself a nice new "Schloss" or manor house with gold plated chamber pots in all of the bedrooms! Everyone in Saxony had forgotten all about Bessler and his pm wheels by then, but suddenly gold plated chamber pots were in great demand...
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Ridiculous but amusing. I’ve got a drawing of his original design which I’ll post if I can find it. It was a conical shape with vertical shutters up the side of the cone, capable of opening or closing as it rotated. The structure was fixed to the top of the very thick stone walls.
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What anon 07:09's AI fake image shows might be possible using early 18th century materials. Instead of simple flat canvas covered panels, Bessler would have had to construct curved panels which is not that easy to do if they have to have a large surface area. He'd have to take long wooden planks and somehow warp them into curved shapes. Maybe wet the wood and then compress the ends toward each other to bend a plank and let it all dry so that warped shape becomes permanent? Finally, he'd add cross pieces to those curved pieces and attached canvas sheets. If this worked, then it would not be necessary to put a roof over the finished Savonius sails which would simplify the construction of the windmill. Using oiled cloth canvas would have protected the sails from rain and snow. I suspect that Bessler may have considered this possible design and maybe anon 07:09 was right about the reason for it not being used. The need to save money puts limits on everything humans do whether it's an 18th century windmill or a 20th century space shuttle.
DeleteVery detailed explanation and speculation - how very KB!
DeleteIn the 18th century when you had to go, you had to go...but the rich knew how to do it in style!
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Thanks for sharing that anon 3:03. But those chamber pots were usually used with a specially made chair called a "commode". The pot was slid below a hole in the seat of the chair and was emptied every morning and evening. The poor just threw it's contents out of a nearby window, but the rich might have a servant empty one into some pit at a distance from their house. Btw...toilet paper hadn't been invented yet! Fortunately, perfume had! Yuck...
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Today's toilet paper was not mass produced until the mid 19th century. But, in Europe before that wealthy individuals used cloth, while the poor relied on straw, hay, or corncobs. After using a commode's chamber pot, the used wiping material would have been deposited in a bucket and covered to keep the odor contained. In ancient Rome they used something called a tersorium which was a sponge on a stick that was often shared in communal latrines. This sponge was soaked in vinegar or salt water for sanitation. The need for a wipe probably goes right back to the Stone Age. Anyway, thank heavens for modern toilet paper, toilet fixtures, and sewer lines or septic tanks!
DeleteJC: "There is an oddity about the numbering of the woodcuts in MT."
ReplyDeleteHere's my best guess which I am not sure is original.
Z is the last letter of the alphabet which signifies the end of something. Why did Bessler start using the Z's with the 52nd drawing in MT? The obvious reason was to tell the reader that something ended when he reached drawing 52. Maybe what ended was the collection of MT drawings that one could actually use to understand the basic mechanical principles that Bessler's pm wheels used? IOW, the secret of his wheels could be fully understood by just studying the principles illustrated in the first 51 drawings in MT. That makes more sense to me then thinking that he sprinkled clues throughout the work. However, my theory fails to explain how DoSoS managed to find a clue about Y shaped levers (that is, the number 25) in MT 85 several blogs back. Maybe when Bessler got to the number of that drawing, because 8 + 5 = 13 which is a religious number, he couldn't resist sticking another clue into it?
Brad
Your guess is as good as any other, Brad. All of the hints in his notes are in those first 54 MT drawings and the lately added MT 138 "Toys Page" that many think he inserted to replace MT 138 to 141, the four destroyed pages what actually showed the details of his working pm wheels.
DeleteHe hints that levers are connected together with ropes, springs are somehow used, and that you need a special "handle" or lever (maybe SoS's Y levers?). But, of course, there's nothing detailed enough in those notes to start simming or building. Since all of the designs show OB wheels we have to assume that was how his wheels worked...sustained OB. Now all we have to do is figure out how you can combine all of those mechanical hints into a wheel whose weights stay OB as it turns. Sounds easy...until you try to do it!
Anon 00:14: "...and the lately added MT 138 "Toys Page" that many think he inserted to replace MT 138 to 141..."
DeleteLet me try some numerology on those numbers. If you add the numbers of the supposedly four missing pages that revealed Bessler's secret pm wheel design you get 138 + 139 + 140 + 141 = 558. How would SoS or his "disciple" view that? Probably they'd say that you multiply the 5's to get 5 x 5 = 25 which stands for the 25th letter of the alphabet or Y which indicates Bessler used those Y shaped levers. And, of course, that remaining 8 means he used 8 of them per wheel! I'm starting to think that if one tries hard enough, he can "prove" almost anything with numerology! The same also applies to the various angles and shapes we see in the Bessler drawings. If a dozen different pm chasers look at them, you will get a dozen different interpretations of them. Who's to know which, if any, are correct?
"Who's to know which, if any, are correct? "
DeleteIt's simple. The interpretations that lead to a runner are the correct ones!
Just when we all thought Bessler had a monopoly on working pm machines, along comes this!
ReplyDeleteIt's an original letter dated May 18, 1797, from John Oliver of Bordentown to Thomas Jefferson. The letter mentions that Oliver’s son has developed a machine claimed to exhibit perpetual motion. This communication reflects the era’s interest in scientific innovation and mechanical inventions.
The machine must have been somewhat small because it was put into a chest and ran continuously for 3 months and a day. After that it was witnessed by others and declared to be a "perpetual motion". IF this is true, it beats Bessler's Kassal wheel endurance test. Here's the original letter and the alamy.com website sells printed copies of it:
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Imo, it was, because of its small size, some sort of magnetic motor that used lodestones.
Thank you anon 11:09. Very interesting. I’d like to try and discover more about the boy and his invention.
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Most interesting, anon 11:09. Fawk, there could have been dozens of actual working pm machines constructed over the centuries with so many obsessed inventors trying to build them. But, where are they now? Unlike Bessler who wrote and distributed books for years to promote the sale of his invention, those other inventors probably only showed what they had to a few close friends or gave a public demonstration to a very small group in some remote town. The inventor may have expected the world to then beat a path to his door to buy the invention and, when that did not happen, he just stored it away somewhere and, after his death, it was thrown out with the rest of his junk. The invention then became "lost to history" as they say. One notable exception was the Asa Jackson wheel. Decades after the inventor's death, it was found stored away in a barn and eventually wound up in a museum devoted to Appalachian crafts and inventions. That wheel, or most of it, still exists, but no one has managed to figure out how it worked or can get it to work now.
DeleteI vaguely remember that years ago a guy showed up on bwf and claimed he had actually invented a working pm wheel decades earlier and let his kids play with it. When asked what happened to it, he could not remember. When asked what the design was, he could also not remember the details. So, was he lying or hallucinating or telling the truth? We'll never know for sure since he disappeared permanently after posting there for about a month or so.
The only working pm wheel we know for sure existed is the design that Bessler found and, despite that, almost everyone who hears about it nowadays automatically dismisses it as a hoax. Will that status change if someone invents a working wheel now and claims it's the same as Bessler's wheel? Not necessarily. It will have to perform exactly like his did and also be justified by various hidden clues he left in his writings that a majority agree are clues and describe the new wheel's mechanics. Even if the new wheel passes all of those tests, it could still take years to decades to finally be accepted as the resurrection of the Bessler wheel. The inventor could be long cold in his grave by then!
@anon 11:09
DeleteAssuming that letter's story is true, Oliver's son's magnetic pm motor might have been something like this:
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But I'm thinking of a variation that has a stator magnet on four sides of the rotor for extra torque.
Damn! That should work anon 20:02! I'm going to see if I can build it and use your idea with the four stator magnets surrounding the rotor.
DeleteYes, give it a try anon 02:05. But I'd recommend that you only use four magnets on the rotor instead of the six shown. Also, just start with two stator magnets located on opposite sides of the rotor. Keep it simple to start and work slowly. Good luck and please do let us know what results you get.
DeleteReal or fake?...YOU decide!
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It's got to be fake because if it was real we'd be using it right now instead of just seeing it on a youtube video. Inventors with real working devices aren't making youtube videos. They are patenting it and negotiating with Big Oil to keep it off the market!
DeleteHere's another one that's fake. See if you can guess how he faked his video.
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Chikumbutso is back! I thought he had disappeared, but he's back with a bigger and more powerful free energy device that can produce half a megawatt to power 300 homes! It pulls "natural energy" right out of the air using his revolutionary "micro sonic energy device". He's been privately told by a government official that the government wants to use it to power homes and will pay him for all of the electrical power it produces. I guess it won't be long before we see these all over the US and UK charging up everyone's new Chinese made EV! Just another incredible technological breakthrough from Zimbabwe!
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Beware of inventors who "explain" how their latest OU device works using technobabble. However, I will admit that his setup looks impressive. But, it could just be a collection of electronics junkyard parts he connected together. The question is, if he's actually outputting any current, what is the source. I don't see any external power lines going into it. But, they could be concealed underground. I'm also wary of any devices, like his, that are fixed in place somewhere so they cannot be easily moved about. That's another possible indication that they are tapping an unseen power source.
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DeleteNowhere in that video do we see his device even lighting up a single little LED bulb! The video makers got someone claiming to be a physicist to wave a meter around and declare the device was not receiving any microwave energy from a nearby tower. That's nice, but even if it was it would be minuscule. This is just another "no demonstration demonstration" type video only intended to promote the inventor's name and create the illusion that he has something that works. People, especially those without any technical training, tend to be very gullible and can be easily taken in by such nonsense. But, didn't some "government official" show up and privately tell him the government wanted to buy electrical power from his machine? Lol! That "official" could be a friend (or fellow scammer) of his wearing a suit and letting the conversation be overheard to convince potential investors watching the video that his gadget has to be real. Don't send anyone like him a single dollar until they demonstrate to an INDEPENDENT testing agency that their device does exactly what he claims it does and that agency is willing to put IN WRITING that it does and will be financially liable if it does not and investors lose money as a result. If you do send someone like him any of your hard earned money without such assurance, it will be equivalent to throwing it into the middle of the ocean because you will never see any of it again.
Something similar to this happened to a friend of mine years ago and he's still angry and complaining about the thousands he lost. Their scam ran for several years and kept draining away more and more money from him and others to "refine" their device. Then they just suddenly disappeared!
Omg! Maxwell Chikumbutso is surely destined to be the next Elon Musk! (Wasn't Musk also born in Africa?!) Now you can purchase and install Chikumbutso's revolutionary "Greener Power Machine" in your home and say goodbye to those ever increasing electric bills. Over in the UK they are now paying 2 to 3 times what they are paying over in continental Europe on their electric bills thanks to all of the hidden taxes their politicians put into their bills and which are necessary to pay for all of those solar panels and wind turbines as they continue to shut down fossil fuel power plants. All of those unreliable "renewable" power sources are in turn necessary to help their politicians continue their delusional pursuit of reaching the "New Zero" fantasy by 2050. It will never happen and all of those tens of billions of pounds per year being sucked out everyone's pockets over there are going right into the bank accounts of the hucksters pushing the "green energy" nonsense. Don't they realize most people don't give a damn about Climate Change anymore? They're more interested in paying their bills to keep a roof over their heads and their refrigerators filled.
DeleteNow Chikumbutso is going to change all of that. He has a company called Saith Group and you can contact them to buy your own Greener Power Machine right now and have it installed in your home. No need to wait forever for some sort of Bessler wheel powered generator to come along. That may never happen. Here's a link to Chikumbutso's website:
https://saithtechnologies.com/saith-power
While your electrifying your home, why not put his new revolutionary electric car, the "Saith FEV", in your driveway. It runs on...NOTHING and, unlike Musk's doomed Tesla cars, it has an UNLIMITED range! That's right, it is completely self-powered and you never have to plug it in anywhere! Watch his video for the car here:
https://saithtechnologies.com/saith-motors
I can't wait to get one!
In that Saith Group's FAQ there's a question about his Greener Power Machine: "Is this a perpetual motion machine?" The answer given almost sounds plausible:
Delete"The GPM machine is not a perpetual motion machine. The device uses ambient sonic background energy from space. This is always available 24/7 from all astronomical bodies, such as the sun, Earth, and Moon. This type of energy has previously been discussed by other inventors – normally referred to as longitudinal waves, scalar waves, Tesla waves, etc. However, the GPM machine does not require any refueling and consumables while running. It may need to replace a starting battery every 7-10 years or so."
Apparently, his machine can function as a receiver for "ambient sonic background energy from space" (whatever that is supposed to be!) and use a lot of "proprietary" electronic technology to convert it into 120 to 240 VAC house current. If this is for real, then it is indeed revolutionary. But, I know from previous experience, that the bigger the scam, the greater the effort to make it sound real. His videos were all made about five years ago and I'm only now hearing about it? If it actually worked as they claimed, then wouldn't the world be using it now instead of acres covered with photovoltaic panels and those ugly giant wind turbines? You can only cover up a non performing device and a scam for so long by claiming that Big Oil is suppressing it all. At some point you have to produce some real world results. Where are his real world results? Anyone can make up a website and make all kinds of claims on it.
Here's a YT video that covers some of the controversy surrounding Chikumbutso and his claims to having invented revolutionary free energy devices:
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Turns out that FEV car of his that runs on nothing was actually a generic electric car he purchased from China! His portable power unit is just a solar powered device you can buy on Amazon for a little over $100 USD and his drones and helicopter are non functional mockups. He has investors who cannot get in touch with him and if they actually go to Zimbabwe and find him, he will give them excuses as to why he can't let them see his machines in operation then. This, imo, is typical scammer activity. Even the Zimbabwean government officials that gave him a lot of social media attention in the past are deleting their posts! When scientists tell him that the RF energy in the environment is only a few microwatts per square meter, he counters by saying that is true, but he's discovered a secret substance that, when hit by that weak energy, amplifies it to an enormous level! What's that material? He can't say because it's a precious secret known only to him and worth billions! Bessler made similar claims to a secret device, but at least his could be demonstrated and officially tested. Not so with Chikumbutso various gadgets.
The YT video above goes into the theory that he may have become delusional and actually believes he can make good on his, so far, unproven claims if he can just take in enough money for further research. Where have we heard that line before? Usually from scammers. Personally, I would not send him anything until and unless his claims are verified by some official body that I respect. So far that isn't happening and it looks like it never will. Despite that, he still has fans that swear he has something real and that sinister corporations are trying to silence him. Btw...he dropped out of school at age 14 which means around the 8th or 9th grade.
It's easy to dismiss Chikumbutso as a scammer. But, this section from a documentary titled "Thrive II" might change your mind. The documentary makers went to Zimbabwe and met the inventor and told him they wanted to test his Greener Power Machine. He made excuses and there were delays and they got the feeling he wanted them to leave. But, they hung in there and he eventually agree to the tests, but there was a problem. His machine needed to have 18 batteries in it that were critical to it working and he had some of them, but not enough. Apparently, the RF energy it receives from outer space and converts into electricity must pass through all 18 batteries which are wired in series! Somehow, the documentary makers managed to come up with the extra cash and bought him the extra necessary batteries. The test was set up and the machine had to continuously run a high current arc welding machine well past the time when all of the batteries should have been completely drained. That was done and then, when they checked the voltage on the batteries, they still had their original full voltages! None of them had been drained as they should have been. This was considered proof that Chikumbutso really does have a free energy machine. They charge you to rent or buy the entire documentary, but I found this free section that shows the documentary makers testing his free energy machine.
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So, it looks like this story isn't quite ready for burial yet.
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DeleteThanks for the link to that section of the documentary, but he could have secretly rigged the test to reduce the amount of current the welding machine was drawing to prolong how long it took to drain the batteries and also make it look like the batteries still had their full voltage when, in reality, they did not and were almost dead. Just the fact that he lied about having free energy products for sale when he really did not is enough to spell SCAMMER in my book. I'm amazed at how these guys can attract "true believers" who will support them no matter how many of their lies are exposed. It must be some sort of emotional need they have to follow a leader at all costs. You see that kind of behavior in the military, politics, religion, science, etc. Supporting nonsense doesn't prove one's loyalty, it only shows what a fool he is.
@anon 09:49
DeleteI agree that the observations of two documentary video makers are not sufficient to verify that guy has a working OU device. They are not physicists and could easily be fooled. His device needs to be tested by serious types like maybe at a school of engineering. Of course, that won't happen because he claims he can't risk them stealing his secrets. A patent would help prevent that, but then he says he can't get a patent because the patent office won't grant one on a perpetual motion machine. However, on his website, he insists that his device is not a perpetual motion device. It's a catch 22 situation that prevents his device from ever being tested which may be exactly how he wants the situation to remain. Maybe he's actually given up on making any serious money on it, which would certainly be the case if it's a hoax, and has settled for just picking up nonrefundable deposits here and there from true believer types and getting a lot of attention on social media? Then again, maybe he's delusional and thinks he can finally get it to work if he can just collect enough deposit money so he can further develop it? We can't really know what's going on in his head. I'm wondering if he will drop out of sight for a few years and then reappear to make the same claims of OU to a new generation of true believers?
Found this using ChatGPT:
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Apparently, Chikumbutso was arrested in 2018 and charged with six counts of armed robbery alongside five alleged accomplices! Of course, he denies everything.
The best form of robbery is the unarmed kind when you get your victims to willingly give you their money because they think you are going to somehow make them happier. Then, when you don't, rather than admit they were scammed, they come up with excuses to explain away why you didn't deliver on your promises. Some will even send you more money believing that, next time, you will finally deliver (known as "doubling down" as in a kind of bet in the casino card game of Black Jack). It's really an amazing psycho/social phenomenon. But, yes, he's back and still claiming he's discovered the most important secret in history: a method to extract unlimited free energy from the universe!
He certainly sounds sincere. Like Bessler, he credits God with giving him the secret of obtaining unlimited clean energy! Here's his brief story:
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In February of this year he displayed his FEV unlimited range car which sells for an affordable $14,000 USD. His microsonic energy technology is "embedded" in the car and if someone tries to extract it and cuts just five wires, the whole thing blows up! If what he has is for real, then without a doubt he will get a Nobel Prize for it.
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I think I read somewhere that the cosmic RF he uses is 50 Hertz. That's a very low frequency. Supposedly, it is fed through some new material he invented and then there is a huge boost in the output energy. How big? Like tens to hundreds of MILLIONS of times bigger! That's serious energy. In the second video above, he demonstrates a large screen tv being run off of one of this microsonic energy devices. He admits that he bought the EV he displays from China, but he says that is unimportant. What is important is that he can use his technology to make ANY EV have unlimited range and never need recharging! He's willing to work with any of the big auto manufacturers. So far, however, they have all been avoiding him.
"Supposedly, it is fed through some new material he invented and then there is a huge boost in the output energy."
DeleteThat still does not explain where all of that energy is coming from. Are we supposed to believe it is just created out of thin air? I can see why the auto manufacturers don't want to have anything to do with him. Why doesn't he just submit one of his devices to some local university (are there any in Zimbabwe?) after they sign a nondisclosure agreement and let them test it to verify his claims. That would seem to settle the matter. Until I see that, I have to assume this is all just a big social media hoax with the goal being for him to rake in deposits for products that do not work and which he has no intention of shipping to anyone. It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. Anybody remember that Yildiz free energy motor everyone was so excited about years ago? Where is he now? What happened to all of the money he got to set up a factory to start manufacturing them? Free energy scams can be very lucrative if they are done right and, so far, it looks to me like Chikumbutso is doing it just right.
Getting away from that Chikumbutso free energy scam for a while, I decided to dig deeper into the story about John Oliver's son inventing a perpetual motion machine. I learned a little more. His son's name was Robert and he was a 24 year old cabinet maker and Oliver's oldest son. Jefferson answered the letter he received from Oliver a few weeks later. Jefferson was dubious about the possibility of a self moving machine, but said he could allow for the possibility of a machine that was powered by some natural force like air pressure or gravity. He said that he would support Oliver's son after he had perfected the device and revealed it. That, however, never happen so all we have are two letters and no followup. Here's a link to Jefferson's letter:
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Wow! My new Chikumbutso FEV car was delivered today by ship and I had it brought right to my front door by truck. It's beautiful and only $14,000 USD (plus, $3,200 USD for shipping and truck delivery). I've been driving it around my town all day and the dashboard monitor's range gauge is still all the way to the end of the scale which is 300 miles. It never seems to lose power. People keep asking me where I bought it. It's a miracle I tell you. The car is the quietest and smoothest I've ever driven. What you save on electricity with this gem will actually pay for the car and its shipping charges in only a few years so it's like getting it for free. Imo, everyone should be driving one of these microsonic energy powered cars, but get one before Trump slaps a tariff on it and doubles its price! I'm now thinking about installing one of his 5 kw Greener Power Machines in my home. Goodbye gasoline, maintenance, and electricity bills forever. Thank you, Chikumbutso! You are definitely the next Tesla!
Delete"The car is the quietest...I've ever driven."
DeleteYeah it's so quiet you wouldn't even know it was there! Lol!
This has got to be one of the most interesting websites online devoted to Da Vinci's designs for pm wheels:
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Bessler must have been familiar with them and referred to inventors like Da Vinci as "men of renown" in MT. Da Vinci, btw, was the first inventor to declare that pm was impossible. Using rolling "sphere weight" type wheels that may be true. But, Bessler was not using such a wheel.
How quickly the world has forgotten Webb Lymburner's revolutionary "Automatic Gravity Wheel"! The idea occurred to him by watching the balls rolling around on a pool table!
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Read his exciting story here:
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Yes, he did have to finally attach an electric motor to it to make it work. BUT, his careful measurements show it was outputting excess power!
FINALLY!
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Looks good and like the cg should be to the right side so it stays ob. But, the levers are raised near the top and that takes energy. It's like a magnetic version of mt13. The question is will the turning wheel put out more than enough energy to lift the levers as their magnet fields are repelled by the blue pole of the magnet on the right side of the axle? If yes, then this is a runner. If no, then it's just another dead duck design. I haven't seen one like this before.
DeleteThat's an animation and not a simulation. Animations can make anything look like a runner because they don't have to obey the laws of physics or mechanics.
DeleteAnimations are not completely worthless. They can serve as a guide to how one hopes a design he has will work. Of course, verification then requires working sims followed by working builds. Those who try to go right to builds tend to have a general design in their minds maybe based on a sketch or two. That's fine too. Everyone has to find the approach that they are most comfortable with. When it comes to pm research there is no "one size fits all" approach.
DeleteLongtime lurker here. Have a question. It sounds like Ken's book is pretty detailed with design plans for a wheel. Have there been any attempts to follow it?
ReplyDeleteThere was some guy years ago who made two posts on bwf before disappearing. He claimed he read Ken's 800 page book in less than a week and followed his instructions to the letter to build the wheel (it took me over a month to read my copy!). He posted some photos of his wheel, but they looked nothing like what someone would have gotten if they actually built Ken's version of Bessler's 36 inch diameter prototype wheel as described in his book. He did not disclose the values of the parts he used either. Still, he claimed it worked in some orientations, but not others which could mean it was not properly balanced.
DeleteTo date, Ken is the only one who has published a design based on his interpretation of many small numerological clues in Bessler's drawings, especially the two DT portraits and what he claims are his successful sims of the design (he had to make about two thousand sims testing the clues he found to finally get ones that were working!).
People have requested copies of Ken's sim files in the past, but he always declined saying that he wants people to make their own sims to convince themselves that the design works. Oh, also he is the only one who has ever explained where the energy came from that the wheels put out and how Bessler managed to make his large 12 foot diameter wheels bidirectional. That involves a simple, but reliable gravity activated latch mechanism (he calls it a "Cat's Claw Gravity Latch" or something like that). New copies of his book are pricey, but you can get used copies at a very affordable price. I'm not a builder, but I think anyone who is and is very serious about duplicating a working Bessler wheel should get a copy of Ken's book. Imo, it is truly unique in the literature of pm and not just because of the size, but for the level of detail.
Easy to find 2 page topic with the builder Dave's comments about the build with photo's, and his background and experience with builds. Be your own judge.
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so kb didn't help him get it going after he bought the book and invested so much time and money on it? same reason he didn't share his sims.
DeleteWhen kb started trying to sell his book I looked at the design without having to buy the book. I could tell from the description of the parts ( levers are levers) and how it was supposed to work with leverage that no one needed to build it; it's a paperweight like any similar design. He probably didn't sell more than 2 books.
DeleteI caught this in his post "This has been a frustrating build, because initially I had some torque, and the wheel would self start from some positions without any push and rotate and accelerate for up to half a turn, but when manually turned to different positions sometimes it would have no torque, or reverse torque and start moving backwards, very difficult to fault find."
DeleteI read the ken b book and the wheel that "whatzonstrat" made may look good but it is not the same as what is described in the book. His version is far too heavy. Just look at the single wood back disc he uses. It probably weighs more than all the levers with their little weights put together. Also while it makes building easier I don't trust builds where there's a single heavy disc with an axle supported on only one side by a bearing. That can increase bearing drag if there is no counter balance for the disc on the other end of the axle and he has none in his photo. The ken b wheel is a very delicate structure made of small strips of wood. Expecting a low torque design to work using whatzonstrat's version would be like putting a lawnmower engine in a sports car and expecting to do 0 to 60 mph in 3 seconds!
I think Ken B has his true believers just like John and Chikumbutso have theirs. Their followers beliefs, even when not confirmed, serve as a psychological anchor for them in a world they find confusing and overwhelming. A drowning person in the middle of an ocean will cling to a scrap of wood floating by with the hope that it will save his life. It may or may not, but if it does not, then at least it gives him a little bit of comforting hope in his last moments of life. Who are we to deny that comfort to anyone? Many have pondered the mystery of Bessler's wheels for a lifetime and want to see it solved so they can finally get it out of their minds. Ken B and John offer them that hope of a final solution. Let them enjoy the comfort that hope brings them...
DeleteThe single wood back disc has no effect on whether or not the design works as long as it's balanced (it appears to be medium density fiberboard which is known for its uniformity) and centered on the axle. I doubt he mounted it off center. The single bearing is not a concern: "This wheel has a very good bearing and 1 or 2 gms on the rim will take it to the bottom. The lever / weight units also are pivoted on good bearings, so friction is negligible."
DeleteBesides, it relies on leverage for torque as one can clearly see. A "dead duck" like any other.
If you're hoping for a final solution from Ken, don't hold your breath in the middle of the ocean of life. His design is an anchor alright.
Ken B fan here. After making thousands of sims to verify he had a runner, if he says it's a runner, then I'm very inclined to believe him because he would know if his sims were valid after all of that work. I think as others sim his design, we will see them also starting to say it works. Then it's time for builds. Also, about whatzonstrat's supposedly "accurate" build, this analysis of one of his photos from a link on bwf explains what nonsense that was (btw, why did the links to his photos given on this blog get deleted?):
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Using the vertical edge of the black iron bearing support as a reference (yellow line), one can see that the top of the disc leans out farther than the bottom of the disc (red lines). With that kind of misalignment, I'm surprised his quickly slapped together version worked at all!
Not a Ken B fan here.
DeleteIt *didn't* work at all, Einstein. Misalignment? If you think that's why his obviously painstaking build didn't work, there's no hope for you anyway.
I credit whatzonstrat's attempt to duplicate Ken's version of Bessler's 3 foot prototype wheel, but I think I have to agree with anon 02:31 that it is not an accurate copy. From his book someone following his instructions should wind up with a wheel and axle that together weigh 6.1 lbs which includes the weight of the design's eight levers and their attached end weights. From just eyeballing whatzonstrat's build I doubt if it weighs less than 20 lbs! Ken warns in his book that because of the low torque if one starts to make changes to the design he gives, then the resulting wheel may not work properly or work at all. That is why whatzonstrat could not get continuous motion from his wheel, imo. I'm also turned off by the way his wheel axle is supported on only one side. Everything I ever tried to build had the drum axle supported at both ends and not just by one.
DeleteThat’s laughable. A 6 lb. wheel, even if it managed to turn itself, wouldn’t have enough leverage to lift a cotton ball.
DeleteIt is laughable. Everyone knows that mass has inertia. And mass in rotation has rotational inertia. The more inertia the slower it is to accelerate, and also the slower it is to decelerate. The less inertia the faster to accelerate and faster to decelerate duh. Zero sum game. It makes exactly no practical difference to the wheel other than minuscule bearing static and rolling friction losses which are common to both. If it has excess torque it will accumulate momentum and doesn't need to be a featherweight. Also everyone who builds sims has thousands of sims saved in files as ideas progress. You might build tens of or even a hundred variations on a design theme but you don't build "thousands" of the same theme until you magically get just one and only one to work. You sensitivity test it across a range of input values to test its reliability and that you have accurate findings. Building thousands of sims is nothing unique or unusual.
DeleteI’m not sure if Ken B is still lurking about this blog but he seems to have a few followers here, hence the occasional post in his favour. I haven’t deleted any links to this comments or his photos so if they’ve disappeared, it has nothing to do with me. I know for certain that his book is filled with an incredible collection of totally invisible “clues”, products of Ken’s vivid imagination. When you know the real details of the clues I’ve found and interpreted correctly, you will realise Ken’s book is a work of fiction.
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@anon02:08
DeleteIt's not laughable when you consider that Ken B gives very detailed instructions for building a replica of Bessler's first 36 inch diameter prototype wheel which was not the larger one he publicly exhibited in Gera on June 6th of 1712. That earlier prototype was the one he wrote about in AP that could barely keep itself in motion when he first found its design. It was really just a toy and he probably kept it that small so he could more easily work on it on a tabletop. Supposedly, its eight little levers only had 6 OUNCE lead weights attached to their ends! So the eight lead weights would have only weighed a total of 8 x 6 oz = 48 oz = 3 lbs. If the total weight of the wheel was 6.1 lbs, then that means the rest of the wheel (the levers, springs, cords, drum, and axle) only weighted a total of 3.1 lbs. That is a very fragile construction. Still, if it could reach 60 rpm's, then it could probably hoist a weight of a few lbs by a cord attached to and wrapping around its axle through a distance of a foot or so. This was most likely the "little wheel" that Bessler kept at his home and would privately show off to his most trusted friends. IIRC, one of Karl's sons saw it after Bessler destroyed the Weissenstein Castle wheel. After his arrest, however, Bessler destroyed it along with the MT drawings and other papers that gave the details of how his secret pm wheel mechanics worked. He had decided that the only really safe place to store those secrets was in his head!
Thanks for those numbers anon 07;15. I decided to feed them into Chat GPT and it calculated that for a 3 feet diameter wheel weighing 6.1 pounds with evenly distributed mass and turning at 60 rpms, the rotational kinetic energy would be 4.2 foot pounds. So, Bessler's little prototype wheel's axle using a cord could have lifted a weight of about 2 pounds a distance of about 2 feet. Just enough to reach the axle if it was held 2 feet above the table by some sort of stand. This looks right to me.
DeleteWhat finally convinced me that Ken does actually have Bessler's design was when DoSoS managed to find that Y shape lever in that last drawing that Bessler made and put in his 1719 annual card for Count Karl. It's the exact same lever in Ken's prototype wheel! That cannot just be chance. That drawing is not mentioned anywhere in Ken's book and I don't even think he was aware of its existence.
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@anon 11:40. I agree that it was an impressive discovery and can't be due to just chance. I'm wondering if there are any more Bessler drawings we haven't seen yet.
DeleteSeems like there's more and more new clues coming out every month around here. That's a good thing because it shows we're getting closer to finally duplicating one of Bessler's wheels.
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DeleteI vaguely recall that there was another Bessler drawing, but I don't recall what book it was in. It was a drawing that he did for the enlarged first letter of the first word in the first paragraph of a chapter that showed a little house in the distance and steps leading up to something in the foreground. I'm not sure, but I think SoS did one of his numerology analyses on it but that was years ago. I'll dig around. Maybe I can find it.
OMG the hallucinations continue. All that is known about the first working prototype is from what Bessler himself says. He says nothing about a total of 8 weights, or each weight being 6 oz. He neither says nor speculates on or about any rpm achieved or size. Just that it could barely turn itself. Nor that it could lift a few pounds. And nothing is recorded about one of Karl's sons having seen it, before or after he destroyed his last Weissenstein wheel. What is said is that he had built a small model wheel for his landlord upon his death that was not in his death inventory. If anyone has information to the contrary please share the sources and links thanks.
ReplyDeleteYou’re absolutely right anon 07:37, there is no documentary evidence describing Bessler’s so-called prototype wheel, it’s merely supposition on Ken’s behalf. I have no objection to speculation about Bessler’s wheels, but Ken routinely makes his guesses appear to be based on “fact”, those “facts” are not recorded in any documents; in “fact”most of Ken’s book is full of speculation with very few if real facts!
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I think those details for B's 3 foot prototype wheel are based on KB's analysis of the new clues he claims he's found in the B drawings. From what I've read, those details are mostly based on his numerological analysis of those clues. SoS who is considered the top numerology guy here said a few years ago that he had finally read KB's book and that he, SoS, agreed with about 95% of KB's numerology analysis. So, whether one accepts the KB version of B's prototype wheel design as accurate or not really comes down to whether or not one agrees with KB's interpretations of those new clues he claims he's found and whether or not they are actually clues at all. I suspect that when (if!) JC finally reveals his never before revealed clues, he will find most of them being dismissed as imaginary and his interpretations of them worthless especially if no one can make a working sim out of his design.
DeleteThe majority of pm wheel builders today work with a convenient size wheel and 36 inches is ideal for table top work. If B was working with a tight budget before he got involved with Karl, then he would have wanted to keep costs down and a small, although not that powerful, prototype wheel would satisfy that need. Once he got the bugs out of that, it would have served as a template for larger versions. Where to keep it? Right in his residence locked up securely in his workshop, of course.
Unfortunately, if you just use the "facts" recorded in "historical documents", then you will make zero progress in reverse engineering B's wheels. People have been using those facts for three centuries and gotten nowhere...generation after generation after generation. KB seems to have chosen a different path and at least he is able to provide us with an interesting design that, imo, looks possible. I don't have his book yet, but I do intend to get a copy.
Also I don't trust "reviews" made by anons who haven't actually read the KB book and have no intention of doing so. The majority of them have also never read the AP or DT translations either and have no intention of ever doing so. Why bother? They've read a few quotes online and think they know it all. They are so deluded.
I'm currently reading my way through the copy of Ken B's book that I ordered a few weeks ago and all I can say is that it is truly an amazing work! His biography of Bessler in the first chapter is probably the most detailed I've ever read. However, he tells his reader right near the beginning of that chapter:
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Anyway for those getting the volume, be prepared to dive deeper into the subject than you ever thought possible. I'm not a builder and my main interest is in the various numerology clues Bessler hid in his drawings. Based on the table of contents it looks like the last quarter of this 800 page volume is dedicated to revealing those clues and interpreting them. I'll be in numerology heaven this holiday season!
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The information provided by Ken’s numerology is fake, and contains no information about Bessler’s earlier life and has no bearing on his wheels. If you want details about his coded information visit my web sites at
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http://www.theorffyreuscode.com/
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http://www.orffyreus.org/
http://www.gravitywheel.com/
There is so much more due to be released very soon.
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Ken B's numerological analysis of the Bessler drawings does not pertain to Bessler's earlier life. The numerology was intended to find the specs for the parts used in Bessler's wheels and he appears to have successfully done that. Ken B found that Bessler used Y shaped levers and that was later confirmed by others. Only two blogs ago a numerology student of SoS managed to find that exact same Y lever in that last drawing Bessler did for Karl that you uploaded here. Here's that Y shaped lever that Bessler hid in that drawing:
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Unfortunately, there seems to be little interest in all of those "codes" you found over the years and filled your various websites up with because, unlike the Ken B clues, they don't tell us anything useful about the construction details of Bessler's wheels. If you want to convince people that you have actually found the details of Bessler's pm wheel mechanics, then you need to start showing us what you have and how it describes the parts in Bessler's wheels. So far, all you make are empty promises and claims to having finally solved it with nothing to show to verify any of those claims. In late October you were proclaiming that you would release all before the end of THIS year. The end of this year is now only 18 days away. Have you prepared anything to show us? Many here don't believe you have and I am one of them. In this world, talk is cheap and actions speak much louder than words. Where are your actions???
Only 14 days to go!
DeleteNone of the so called clues are useful if no one has a PM machine on their workbench.
ReplyDeleteWe already know Ken’s design is a turd, so it’s a matter of time until we know if John’s clues prove worthy.
Imo, Ken B's design has yet to be properly evaluated. One quick and crudely build by someone who did not follow the precise instructions in Ken's book does not count. We need to see his design simmed by others and ones that know how to make accurate sims. Unfortunately, simming those special Y levers in his wheel will not be easy. Most of the sims I see are simple compared to it.
DeleteI predict that within a week of disclosure we will know if John's design "proves worthy". He's made no progress in years and now he's starting to sound more uncertain than ever when he wrote for this blog "I thought I’d proved to everyone that at least five mechanisms were needed, at my old web site, but I cannot say at this time whether eight would work..." I think it's slowly dawning on him that five levers is not the answer. Meanwhile he's probably now desperately searching the Bessler drawings for some last minute new clue that will make it all work.
The question is what happens the day after IF his revealed design turns into just another dead duck? I doubt if he will continue to try to make it work. By then he'll be too burned out for that. Most likely, he'll just call it quits like a prize fighter who dazed from too many blows to the head, just gives up and collapses on the mat as the referee counts him out. Sometimes quitting is one's best option.
I remember that SoS made a prophecy back in 2019 which I'm sure no one other than me still remembers. SoS predicted that by the year 2029 John would have abandoned his five lever approach and accepted the Ken B design as accurate and what Bessler actually used. IIRC, SoS even predicted that eventually John would actually follow the instructions in Ken's book and build the first working replica of Bessler's 3 foot prototype wheel! At the time I thought that prediction was ridiculous, but now it's starting to sound like it might actually come true. Only four more years to go! I think the next few months around this blog are going to be VERY interesting.
take a good long look at yourself. haters hate. have the good grace to let John arrive at his destination unmolested and harassed by the likes of you. it shows more about you than him.
DeleteI don't think anyone here truly "hates" JC. We really owe him much. Without his tireless effort to bring us good English translations of Bessler's works at his own expense, none of us would be here right now. We'd either have given up long ago or would be toiling away in our garages or basements trying to get something, anything running. Even if John fails totally to get his runner, I don't think he has anything to be ashamed of because he certainly gave it a good try. We have to keep in mind that, in the great pm chase, failure is the rule and success is the very, very, VERY rare exception. Bessler was, by chance, the right man in the right place at the right time with the right skills and drive and with great luck. Comparing oneself to him is like comparing oneself to someone who just bought a single lottery ticket and won a jackpot worth billions with it and being delusional enough to think he can also do the same thing with the next ticket he buys. Not technically impossible, but about as probable as being hit by lightning several times on the same day and surviving all the hits with no injury!
Deletetone deaf. good luck John.
DeleteThank you guys, it’s very nice to get positive comments.
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We are so confused about using gravity powered wheels. The ancients, however, were not so confused and used them regularly!
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But you quickly say their giant crude wooden wheels were really powered by the flow of the river at the bottoms of the wheels. Fine, but how did the water in that slightly downhill flowing river get raised to a higher level so it could start flowing due to gravity? It was obviously due to rain at higher elevations you say? Fine, but how did the water get up into the storm clouds to provide that rain? Evaporation you say? Fine, but what evaporated that water? Well, solar energy, of course, you say. Fine, but where did that energy come from? The Sun, of course. Fine, but where did the Sun get that energy from? Well...er...fusion reactions inside of the Sun? Yep. So, you see the ancients were actually using fusion power! Of course, they did not know that at the time. But to make their giant water wheels work to fill their tens of miles long aqueducts actually required that tens of thousands of TONS of mass were converted PER SECOND inside of our Sun into the radiation that it constantly outputted. The Earth only receives a very tiny fraction of 1% of all of that energy. Imagine what we could do if we could somehow harness, say, 1% of it. The mind boggles at the possibilities!
I've always been impressed with those huge ancient water raising wheels (as I think Bessler was as we can see from MT!). Only about one billionth of the Sun's total energy output reaches our Earth and of that about a third is reflected back into space by clouds and the Earth's surface. If we got 1% that would be about a billion times more than what we now get! Yes the mind does "boggle".
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I think your math is a bit off there, Brad. My calculations show that if we got 1% of the Sun's energy output, it would only be a hundred million times more than we presently get. But that is an enormous amount. We really don't need that much despite the whole world eventually using AI data centers.
DeleteIf we had that kind of energy to play with maybe we could build a time machine and go back to the Gera of 1712 and pay Bessler for his wheel. Once we got it we could tear off the covering and see how the hell he did it!
DeleteFound this nice image of B's patron:
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Seems like an intelligent, mild mannered man which would have helped him in negotiating peace treaties and settling various European political disputes. That personality probably helped him cool down hostile parties and get them to make reasonable compromises (we could use a lot more of that today!). He looks to be in his early fifties in that drawing. Didn't one of his sons eventually become the king of Sweden or something like that?
DeleteI met Karl last night in a dream, I was having tea and biscuits with him outside at a picnic table, so I asked him what's the secret of the wheel, he pointed at the biscuits and said eat some biscuits, then the dream ended.
DeleteIt's not uncommon to have dreams about some subject one is obsessing about. I've had dreams where I meet Bessler and pay him his 4000 thalers to see inside of one of his 12 foot wheels. He tears the linen off of one side for me and, for a moment, I see all of the levers, weights, ropes, and springs inside of it. I'm able to slowly turn the drum and I can see the levers slowly shifting about. I am totally amazed by the sight. But, when I wake up later, I cannot remember exactly what I saw! It's very frustrating. But, even if I could remember everything exactly, it would probably just be the product of my imagination...or would it!
DeleteEven if we knew exactly how Bessler's wheels worked and could duplicate them today, their power output would be too low to be of practical value in our world. I read one estimate that the Kassal wheel was only outputting about 50 watts. You can get double that nowadays with a single solar cell panel, then only use half the power and store the other half in a lithium battery to use at night. To be practical, some modification to Bessler's original design would have to be made that would greatly increase its power output and I'm not just implying making the wheels bigger in diameter with heavier weights and more on an axle. The modification would have to be to his original basic design to optimize it to the max. But, assuming that was possible, that might still not be enough. Say we boosted the Kassal wheel so it put out 200 watts. That's not even enough power to run a microwave oven! Sad to say, I think at best Bessler's wheels will remain only a mechanical curiosity, but will demonstrate some interesting mechanical principles. Every science museum will want one to put on display and I can image little kits being sold so kids can build one to play with. I know I'd love to have something like that spinning away on my coffee table to use as a conversation piece. Well, maybe some day...
Deletehttps://youtu.be/ltrMfT4Qz5Y?t=150
ReplyDeleteIs that a pm wheel chaser who finally lost his last marble after his "absolutely cannot possibly fail design" failed? If so, I know the feeling all too well...
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