Sunday, 15 December 2019

Wisdom of the Aged

I was going to call this post Wisdom of the Ages, but then found that it had too many connections with what I regard as aberrant philosophies, so I thought Wisdom of the Aged might sum up my tentative conclusions better.

Are there any young people searching for the solution to Bessler’s wheel? I ask this because I note that on the few occasions that a comment reveals the author’s age, some are even older than I!

I’m 74, nearing 75.  I wonder if this subject has been so thoroughly denounced by experts that it doesn’t even raise a question in the minds of the young.  I say ‘young’  to include anyone who is, perhaps only half way to retirement age.

I think it would interesting if commenters would like to state their age when they comment, just the once, so that I could establish some idea of the age range of those who are still curious about Bessler’s wheel.  You could do it anonymously.

On the subject of age, I’m amazed at how fast the time has flown by; my web site at http://www.besslerswheel.com/ was published in 2010;

My orffyreuscode web site http://www.theorffyreuscode.com/ was published in 2009;

And my work on deciphering Bessler’s bible references code at http://www.orffyreus.net/ was also published in 2010; and I published details the same year, about Bessler’s windmill, at http://www.orffyreus.org/ which he was building when he died.

But my first web site http://www.free-energy.co.uk/ went on line in 1997! I was only 51!

I decided to set up those later web sites when I realised that I had done all this work, I but didn’t want to share all of it before I had something that actually worked.  I had spent about ten years working on these subjects before I decided to share some of  my ideas, yet here we are, another ten years later and still nothing to show for it. There is stuff I won’t share because I still believe I have the solution, (and it won’t be lost if something should prevent me from finishing or publishing the rest). So ten years have passed and more since I did most of the work and yet here we are approaching 2020 and no sign of success yet

I found a copy of my first web site on the way back machine


First published in 1997! I can’t believe I’ve been on the internet for all these years, and I’m still chasing this phantom, mirage or ghost....... call it what you will.  Twenty-three years on and I’m still confident of success!  Forgive the naivety of the website, (and perhaps myself), I struggled through a steep learning curve at that time, learning how to self-publish, write web sites etc. Not that I’m much better now!  Still struggling with computers.

JC

79 comments:

  1. I'm 71 and have been interested in Bessler's wheels since I was a teenager and read about them in chapter 5 of Rupert Gould's book, "Oddities: A Book of Unexplained Facts", that I found at a local library. I knew Bessler had to have something real despite what I was being told in my science classes about the 1st law of thermodynamics and all of that. His wheels obviously found an energy source somewhere to somehow tap into. But, I don't think Bessler's wheels will by themselves change the world. They will need to be greatly improved to put out way more power. That won't be happening until after his originals are first duplicated. How they worked will eventually be known. It's just a matter of time. I hope I'm still around when that happens!

    Anyone who hasn't read chapter 5 of Gould's book can do so for free with this archived copy of the volume. That chapter begins on page 89 of the book's text.

    https://archive.org/details/B-001-015-438/page/n13

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    1. thanks for the link. i heard about the book but never seen it. will read chapter five.

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    2. That’s where I first encountered Bessler and his wheel. Thanks for the link.

      JC

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    3. Here's a link to another free book, "Perpetual Motion", by Percy Verance published in 1916. Much mention of Bessler in its chapter X

      https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44771/44771-h/44771-h.htm

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    4. According to Verance book on page 214:

      "Jean-Ernest Eli-Bessler (Councillor) Orffyreus was born in 1680, near Zittan, Alsace, France."

      I thought he was supposed to be born in Zittau in Saxony. Someone got their facts wrong.

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    1. I guessed your age Øystein, perhaps you told me once before. Thanks.

      JC

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    2. I believe I disocvered the Bessler story in around 1998. Worked on it ever since..

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    3. Looking forward to when you publish your work, Øystein.

      JC

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    1. Thanks Derek, another one to add to my list. No names, just recording ages as they appear.

      JC

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  4. I'm 52 and have been building wheels since about 2004. I came to know of Bessler's wheel through your efforts John, in publishing free-energy.co.uk. I have always been a free energy enthusiast and found your website among others on the subject. The John Collins/Bessler route to free energy was the one that I felt strongly drawn to and I've been on that route ever since :-)

    Zhy

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    1. Thanks Zhy, I’m probably guilty of sending a lot of people on this quest!

      JC

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    2. Actually, we were ALL sent on that "quest" by Bessler three hundred years ago!

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    3. You won't be guilty once it's solved John :-) Or will you? lol.

      "John Collins, this World Court hereby finds you guilty of being an accomplice in solving too many of the worlds problems" lol

      Thanks for all your effort John.

      Zhy

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  5. STEVO,
    65 years old, 5th. January.

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  6. Gravittea 67 built over 200 different setups w knowledge gained from each one

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    1. Thanks Gravittea! Over 200, that is going some. I’ve always found it difficult to count my builds because so many are altered when they don’t work. At what point do they become a different design? I know I’ve built a lot and discarded a lot before I’ve finished building some. When we moved house I threw out about 25 wood disc covered in holes from previous builds! I’ve thrown out probably as many over the years when the pieces become unusable due to my alterations to both discs and metal pieces. Yes possibly around 200 here too.

      JC

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  7. John Collin,

    I've built a 100 wheels, if not a hundred, more than a 100; I've lost count. I first learned of your book in 2014 and have been building wheels for five years now. The more I build the less I know. I'm 79, don't think I'll ever figure it out. It's got me stumped------------Sam Peppiatt

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  8. Sam, do not give up...... the solution was left for us to find, but it seems to me it is the spirit of his drawings that we must dissect. Its there, you know it is

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    1. Gravittea, Thanks for the kind words. I should give it up but, I won't. I recently realized that the drawing of the hammer men, on the toys page is actually a parallel ruler. If that means anything.
      Again, thanks for the support. It was just what I needed to keep going.
      Sam

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    2. The hammermen mechanisms could also be considered as symbols for two large equal signs and made large to get our attention. Maybe he's telling us the number of weights on each side of axle is equal inside the drum? Each equal sign is for a one way wheel's drum and the two equal signs in the toys page mean that in a two way wheel's drum there are actually two one way wheels each of which has the same number of weights on each side of the axle (most likely four on each side). If so then there always have to be an even number of weights used inside every wheel whether one or two way. If this is so then Bessler never used an odd number of weights in a wheel. Bad news for the odd number of weights believers.

      Henry L.

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    3. Henry L. I went back and looked at the hammer men. I don't think it's an equal sign but, I could be wrong. It's not exactly like a parallel ruler either; just too subtle to know for sure. Have to build a wheel first to know what to clues mean. So how old are you? Have you got me beat?
      Sam Peppiatt

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    4. @Sam P. I'm going to be hitting the big 7-Oh soon. I'm hoping that hormone cream I mentioned last blog will be the fountain of youth I've been looking for and make me feel like I'm in my 20s or 30s again cause right now I don't think I'd have the energy to blow out the candles on my birthday cake! My doctor says it could help. I'm still skeptical because I tried all kinds of herbs and such the last few years but they did nothing but make me sick. Big waste of money. The woods and internet are full of snake oil salesmen selling fantasies to people with real health problems!

      I agree we won't know exactly what secrets are hidden in the toys page until we have Bessler's design. Someone told me Ken's book discusses the page and I ordered a softcover to find out what he says about it. One thing is for sure. When one hammer drops on an anvil or an ax chops the log, the other is rising. So, we got metal and wood and those are the materials in Bessler's wheels. Dropping on the anvil or log must be a symbol for a weight at the end of a lever moving closer to the axle and rising away from the anvil or log a symbol for an opposite weight moving farther from the axle on the other side of the drum. Using two hammer/axemen toys means to me that the shifting process was reversed in the two way wheels and was how they were able to drive the drum in two directions. The scissor toy on the left has eight X shaped sections and I think they are supposed to be symbols for eight lever mechs inside of a one way wheel. Notice they are all connected together and the arrow at the top points up meaning these eight lever mechs keep raising the CoG of the weights as the drum turns. The Jacob's ladder toy on the right (I had one as a kid) works as each panel flips down and then releases the one below it to do the same and so on. Some action like that was going on in Bessler's wheels. This is just all guesswork though.

      Henry L.

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    5. Henry L. I know what you mean; hate those zeros. Bessler the *Mchanicus*. He didn't give us much to go on-----------anyway, hope you have a good birthday.
      Sam

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    6. anyone not see mt toy page can see it here

      https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/c1/dd/68c1dd4873d736c8a14d30479aada2ac.jpg

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    7. There are some very important clues in the toys page. Compare the top hammermen to the bottom axmen. Difference? The top ones have arms while the bottom ones don't. I think Bessler gives us clues about the number of arms used in his levers using the top hammermen. See the two "C" letters between the top hammermen? "C" has an alphanumeric value of 3 so that means that there were 3 arms in each lever. But the "C" appears twice meaning each lever actually had a pair of 3 arm pieces to it. Each lever must have been made from two 3 arm pieces that were held together in parallel by wooden separator pieces to form an open frame-like structure. That then made a single lever having three parallel pairs of arms at various angles to each other. The weight in each lever was then held between the ends of one of the three parallel pairs of arms. Analyzing all of the possible alphanumeric values of the letters A, B, C, C, D, D, and E in the toy page probably gives one all of the specifications for the levers he used as well as the masses of their weights and even the springs attached to the levers because the bodies of the lower axmen are actually springs! Good luck decoding all of that though. You really need his final working design to accurately decode it and all that Bessler really does with the hidden alphanumeric clues in the toys page is let you know if you have finally successfully found his design. Of course, if you have, you will have a working wheel and really won't need his toys page clues! But, its clues will let you know if you actually do have HIS design. It's a very clever method he used. Unless you are building constantly, you won't be able to make much of the many clues in the toys page. I think Bessler put the toys page into MT because he felt bad about his bout of paranoia that made him destroy the wood printing blocks and test prints that gave illustrations of the interior arrangement of parts in his working wheels. The toys page was provided to relieve his guilt and also as a form of penance. It's really a gift for future builders and not the inactive armchair philosopher types out there.

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    8. This English guy collects toys and demonstrates a long Jacob's Ladder in this video. I wonder if this toy could be made into a loop and then mounted around the rim of a wheel so that the action was continuous and could drive the wheel? Maybe Bessler gave it a try and couldn't make it work?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc5M5u8JZo8

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  9. Hello John and everyone... ..
    I am almost 49 years old and I rarely write on this blog but I read it regularly. I've been researching Bessler since 2011. I think, like most people here, I have found the solution to the riddle.
    When I see the ages of the various members, I notice that the succession is not assured and it is a pity. Maybe the cause is due to conditioning or a certain defeatism. It is up to us to give hope and the desire to dream again to this youth ;-)


    Robert...

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    1. Always good to know I’m read even if there are few comments. Thanks Robert.

      JC

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  10. I'm 23. I first learned about it and bought a copy of your first book on the iTunes store when I was about 15 and been following your blog since. Always been more of an observer from afar, somewhere between skeptic and believer. Would love to be converted to a full believer! Hope you're able to complete your current build soon.

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    1. It’s good to know of some younger people out there. Hopefully more will reveal their ages and I don’t mind if they feel no need to comment, I have the stats which do tell me the numbers of visitors who come to what I’ve written, it’s encouraging. So thank you.

      JC

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  11. Once again, the common link is John. I am positive that I would have never come across this mind altering adventure without him. Thank You John
    Merry Christmas to all

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    1. Thank you Gravittea, and likewise, a Merry Christmas to all.

      JC

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  12. To Henry L, are you indeed approaching 70? Just seeking confirmation of various ages of commenters. I don’t keep names, just the ages. Thanks,

    JC

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    1. @John C. Yep getting ready to complete my 7th decade.

      Henry L.

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    2. Thanks Henry. Still just a youngster then. 😀

      JC

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  13. A poem illustrating Bessler's written work and profession very well. Can you also find the hidden word?

    Grander than the lines that Pythagoras drew,
    Engraved on the hearts that ever are true,
    Onward and beyond the science it ran, -
    Masonry, the nature religion of man.
    Enter thy temple, sweet spirit, and there
    Try us by compasses, level and square.
    Rightly interpreting our mystical art
    You can speculate on with happy heart.

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    1. GEOMETRY, I suspect Øystein. Nicely phrased. I did look for that kind of clue in his books but didn’t find anything. I’m sure you've looked too, but did you find anything?

      JC

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    2. This is a trad. Masonic Poem describing Masonry and their secret art. I didn't fint Acrostic words used by Bessler. But I found it in other known writings! Secondly after Acrostic words, you can have Acrostic Gematria (alphabetic value). I found that used by Bessler and other historical publications..

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    3. But as you know I found the GEOMETRY hidden in text. That is their real secret art..

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    4. Hello Øystein and John ,

      I wouldn't want to impose my point of view but just make you think about another possibility.
      I have been working on a solution based on Bessler's 2 portraits for a long time. After many tests I managed to identify the solution but that is not the purpose of the discussion here.

      Why doesn't the poem refer to the portraits? We are talking about "Compass", "square", "masonry" ... all kinds of things that are there...
      All the clues lead to the portraits and one would wonder why ;-)
      Even if we study them, there is still a long and exciting way to go. They can give a lot of solutions but not necessarily the right one.
      It is up to you to have an open mind to other ways than those that have been yours for so long. It's obviously not easy and it suits me a little bit ;-)

      Also, and this has nothing to do with the poem, didn't you consider making a video conference with the most advanced people on the subject? It would be easier to discuss these things than to write them on a few laborious lines. This could advance the research... as long as you are willing to disclose part of your research to people you trust...

      Robert...

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    5. If there only was any advanced people on the subject/s..

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    6. @Robert
      If you are studying the two DT portraits then you definitely should see Ken Behrendt's book that came out earlier this year. The entire last third of it is devoted to an analysis of the many clues in those portraits and he points out many that no ever noticed or discussed before. He also provides the design he thinks Bessler used in his wheels and claims it is 100% derived from the many clues in the two portraits. You might want to compare your solution to his.

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    7. The portraits seems to be drawn according to the old standard Masonic and Rosicrucian Geometry and Gematria, to portray Bessler as one of high society and even close to a Royal. Many of the people with power and money that Bessler try to reach would acknowledge him as a respectable "insider".

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    8. First of all, I congratulate Ken for his work and all those who work in this discipline. There are already not many of us....
      I am not interested in Ken's solution for several reasons.
      First of all, the author does not want to build a real wheel, which shows that he himself does not believe in his discovery.
      Second, it's a question of practice: Ken's solution integrates strings that stretch/relax. We know that a Bessler wheel worked 24 hours a day for 54 days at 26 rpm. A small calculation gives us: 26*60*24*54 = 2,021,760 movement of each string without them breaking! And this with 18th century strings!

      Third, on Ken's simulation, we see a rope that necessarily stretches ( an elastic), which did not exist at the time.
      Also, Ken had to do more than a hundred simulations before arriving at a functional simulation. How would Bessler have achieved this without a computer? He would have spent a lot of time building, modifying his wheel.
      We must not forget something important: we are convinced that it was working and we are trying with this state of mind but for Bessler, the final result was not won. I think he would have given up pretty quickly if it would have been necessary to adjust strings a hundred times before he could have done so...

      Finally, my solution does not have a string, so it has nothing in common with Ken's system.

      In short, I don't denigrate Ken's work, but I am firmly convinced that this is not Bessler's solution.

      I would also like to make my own prototypes after finding Bessler's solution, so I don't have much time to dwell on solutions from elsewhere. I'm talking in terms of construction, no understanding and interest ;-)

      There is much more logic in Bessler's drawings/writings than one might think. And it's also more "visual" than we think.

      The one who will find the solution is the one who will make a real wheel and who will be able to explain it with the clues left by Bessler in an indisputable way.


      Robert...

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    9. @Robert
      Ken wrote that he's not able to build a wheel at this time although he does not explain why. However, that does not mean that he does not believe in the design. No one writes an 800 page book about a design they don't believe in! As for the cords he used, Bessler may have used prestretched catgut or leather in his earlier smaller diameter wheels to minimize their further stretching when under stress and then switched over to using kink resistant oil coated metal chains in his 12 foot Kassel wheel that ran continuously for two months. They would have held up far better then ropes or leather. Chains, unfortunately, would have been a lot noisier than ropes in that wheel. More than a 100 simulations? Actually, Ken claims he had to make 2,000 simulations using the DT portrait clues as a guide before he finally found the design Bessler used! If your design does not have cords in it, then how do you get the required "connectedness principle" that Bessler said makes his wheels work? Ken's book contains complete instructions to build a 3 foot diameter, one direction wheel for table top display. When finished, a cross section view of its levers and cords should resemble what's in his youtube video.

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    10. @Anonymous : if you are convinced then build his wheel and you will make lots of happy: you, Ken and the whole world ;-)

      This is Ken's concern: many are convinced of the future success of its construction but nobody wants to build it?!


      Robert . . .

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    11. Based on measurements I made off my laptop screen, the levers in the 3 foot diameter wheel in Ken's video are only about 7 inches from their end weights to the ends of the inside pointing arms. Also, since the drum's of Bessler's early wheels were only 4 inches thick that means the levers were less than 4 inches wide. That's kind of small to work with. If I was going to build it I'd double the dimensions of everything to make working on it easier. I never thought of using chains to connect the levers together, but it could work. Maybe Bessler, a former apprentice clockmaker, used the same types of chains used as drive chains in the weight powered clocks of his era? They are very strong. Here's a photo of a typical grandfather clock movement with its drive chains hanging out of it. Only one pair is for the clock's timekeeping movement, the other two pairs power its hour and minute chimes.

      https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZpUzjkCqL._SX425_.jpg

      I don't think kinking would be a problem as long as any chains he used were not allowed to collect in a pile on top of each other at the bottom of the drum. They were probably kept stretched almost tight at all times or draped around posts if very slack to prevent the links from piling up. I built a cheap plastic Black Forest cuckoo clock years ago from a kit I bought and its movement was powered by a heavy brass weight cast to look like a pine cone. The clock was so cheap that its little cuckoo bird didn't go in and out of the house but was just an ornament fixed over the dial. The weight was connected to a clutch gear in the movement by a long chain like the ones in the photo. I used the clock for years and the chain never kinked or broke once. One problem was when it was time to "wind" the clock up which was done by pulling on the shortened end of the chain to lift the weight up until it was just below the clock. A couple of times when pulling on the chain the nail holding the clock to the wall came out and the whole clock fell to the floor! But some plastic cement quickly fixed any damage.

      Henry L.

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  14. "GEOMETRY" made from first letters of each line. Very obvious. Bessler must have used a lot of geometry in constructing his wheels. All the angles and distances had to be just right. If not then no pm.

    Henry L.

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  15. 60, as a kid read about Leonardo Da Vinci's PM drawings in the Encyclopedia Britannica. Then 30 years later a story on JC's PMAAMS? in Nexus magazine in the late 90's. If Bessler was real then how? If he was a fake the same question? 20 years more or less, on and off.

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    1. Thanks, and thank you for reminding me about the Nexus article. I was so excited back then...so long ago now! I was also written up in the ‘Infinite Energy magazine’. Eugene Mallove, the editor, was very supportive and gave me big spread in one copy of the monthly magazine. Sadly, he was murdered 2004 but the killers were caught and jailed.

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  16. Hello, John and all, I'm 64, soon 65... I'm in the quest since the age of 9... And I remember quite well my very first drawing... My best wishes to all of you! Michel.

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    1. Hi. Michel, good to hear from you. Wow, you really started young! Thank you. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

      JC

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  17. To all anonymous's; is there any chance you might identify your selves in some way or another such as No. 1, or 16, or 38, or old 97, or X Y Z, or possibly some other way that would be suitable, so that I / we, would know who we are talking too-----------------------Sam Peppiatt

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    1. Hi Sam, I understand your comment and I think it’s a good idea. I said it would be ok to be anonymous about ages if people preferred to it but I suppose if they wanted anonymity they could use an anonymous name or their age. But many use a name any way so probably things will continue as they are. I’m grateful to get a glimpse of the ages of visitors so thank you to all who revealed theirs. JC

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    2. John, Yes, you are right of coarse. However I don't understand it.
      As always, I want to thank you for the uncommon decency; to write about Bessler truthfully, as few have done. Hope you have a good holiday, Sam

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    3. Thank you, Sam, always a gentleman.

      JC

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  18. from Gould's book "Oddities", page 90:

    "The necessary qualifications for a perpetual-motion seeker are few and simple. He must have a little mechanical skill-enough, say, for simple jobs about the house. He must have a little spare time and a certain amount of perseverance and self-confidence. And he must be ignorant, or all but ignorant, of two subjects in particular: the fundamental principles of mechanics and the work of his predecessors."

    Lol!

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    1. In contrast to that pessimistic view, Gould also wrote this on page 91:

      "Orffyreus' wheel, in fact, is the only instance on record of a machine, capable of doing external work and yet apparently independent of any external or known source of power, having been exhibited in public and subjected to official tests. These tests, while not stringent, certainly seem to preclude the very natural supposition that the whole thing was a clever trick. The machine underwent them successfully, but its construction was never disclosed."

      Henry L.

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    2. We are not "ignorant of the fundamentals of mechanics and the work of our predecessors". We know what does not work, why it does not work, and who tried it in the past. Bessler knew the same things. I found this Bessler quote to help us keep the faith.

      "Because Wagner is incapable of inventing such a device as mine, he thinks no one else in the world can. He's the cleverest man of all who live on this earth. But, if only he could thoroughly cleanse his ears of the wax of hatred which is blocking them up, he'd soon realize, as many honest people do, that the world of mechanics is one that no one can fully fathom. This being the case, why shouldn't the great Perpetuum Mobile have a place in it somewhere?"

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    3. Thanks for both comments, it’s good to see something positive.

      JC

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    4. In the early years of experimental mechanics great effort was made to categorize movement in Leverage in all different kinds of experiments. Today's physicist and mechanics and mathematicians do not argue over those fundamental experiments they've all presumed them to be correct, To prove this there has been little effort to translate these important documents and drawings but yet they all quote the individuals who produce these works as most likely without error. They repeat their errors over and over again, when they're confronted with their error they sometimes say don't you think we would have already understood that! My responses is NO! I don't because I know better and I have evidence to prove it. When the ego is involved the next thing to follow is stupidity, in this they are so predictable! Johann Bessler had knowledge of these experiments but more than that he had practical experience he not only understood all kinds of mechanical devices he built them, that is not to say he worked alone he also understood the spiritual nature and philosophy of life to a greater degree. The inspiration that was given to him is given to all of us you must first make yourself like a child humble. After asking the question of what you seek the answer and be found by pondering over all doesn’t work and understanding why it doesn’t work, because hidden within what doesn’t work can leads you to a revelation of what does. There were others very close to discovering what principle was used in his machine he left Clues on the toy page which can lead you to those examples but without studying what doesn’t work and understanding why it doesn’t work it would be difficult for anyone to recognize it. Oh yes the biggest and most difficult problem you will have is convincing others even to look because I have tried over and over again it seems like everyone is brainwashed they can’t put aside their skepticism for a short bit of time so that I can explain the drawings that were left to be discovered they all assume there has to be another reason for the drawings but none of them can give an alternative explanation. I know what the explained it is obvious even when I explain all the constituent parts and how they move and they understand each individual explanation and ask him the obvious conclusion they still refuse to admit the truth. I empathize with Bessler’s frustration it is like living in a nightmare! I also know now what blinds them it is greed and ego!

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    5. Well written Stephen, and I agree.
      Jer. 5:21 (King James version): "Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not“.

      And this too, “ There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know. The proverb has been traced back in English to 1546 (John Heywood), and resembles the Biblical verse quoted above.

      JC

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  19. 36. Been obsessing over this for 15 years, since I was 21. Have corresponded with you a few times over the years too. I check in here at least every couple weeks for updates.
    -B

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  20. I am guilty of all of the requirements to being a Perpetual Motion seeeeeeeeeeeker

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    1. As Matthew 7:7 says "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you;" This was the KJV Bible's way of saying "Come to God and your prayers will be answered." In general it means that hard work will be rewarded. No doubt it would have been an important verse for Bessler especially because of the repetition of the 7's which are lucky numbers in numerology. Note that 7 x 7 = 49 and 4 + 9 = 13 which is another important number in the Bible and associated with God. Bessler was firmly convinced that he would not have found the secret of mechanical pm unless God had miraculously given it to him.

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    2. @anon 03:53

      Thanks for the numerology lesson. Also, 7 + 7 = 14 and that ruler balanced on the cone shaped gadget in the second DT portrait is 14 inches long. The point of balance divides the ruler into two equal pieces that are each 7 inches long. Now that I'm looking at that portrait, I'm seeing 7's all over the place! There are 7 organ pipes in the background near Bessler's left ear. Not counting the gun and thermometer, there are 7 tools hanging on the wall in the background (count the tools in each rack as a single tool). Several of the drafting tools on the table look like 7's but are reversed left to right. The letter g only appears once under the portrait and it's the 7th letter of the alphabet (maybe the g could stand for "gott" which is German for "God"?). Coincidences? Probably not. I think there is definitely some sort of religious message in the use of all of these 7's which fits in with him believing his finding the working wheel design was due to God's intervention.

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    3. Just a comment: Anything you read and that is written can be interpreted as you like. As the bible is interpreted by all religious people to confirm they are doing just the right thing. Just as Bessler's words confirm any machine. So does Matth. 7:7 say that hard work pays off? Or does it say the opposite? "As Matthew 7:7 says "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you;" "In general it means that hard work will be rewarded"... ??? Does it? It removes the need for hard work.. all is solved by prayer.. Is praying hard work? Or is the study of mechanics, learning science, calculation mechanics and study of the universe hard work? Religion works as a pat on the back, placebo and personal mental assistant, but it actually say that hard work isn't needed. Accepting the word of the bible is alle you need.. BUT Galileo refused to accept the words of the bible.. The Bible does not describe nature correctly he said.. Finally I would like to say that you do NOT ask you best friends for favors and stuff for free.. That is NOT what good friends are for. It's about give and take. Think about that the next time you pray :-) And to John, when you "ask" for help among friends you had already given us what we needed!!

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    4. And by good friend I was referring to that good friend you are suåpposed to have in Jesus. Please don't ask him for favors all the time. If you believe in him, treat him as a good friend.

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    5. @ Anon 06:26

      Don't forget all of the 7's in the FIRST portrait! The thumb and index finger of each of his hands forms a 7 but one is reversed. The light and dark patches on the book's cover form two 7's but one is inverted. The folded part of the curtain near his right ear forms a 7 but is reversed. There are a total of 7 jars on the first and third shelves and on the second and fourth shelves. The labels on the two jars on the fourth shelf form a 7 that's rotated. He has 7 buttons visible on his jacket. Several of the folds in the blanket wrapped around him are 7's. The right side of the table forms a 7 with the bottom edge of the portrait.

      Bessler is supposed to have liked the number 5, but to me it looks like he actually preferred 7!

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  21. Seventy-four and a half, and have nothing more to "contribute" here.

    (Uh, not that I ever actually did. The best, I suppose, was as "John's attack-dog." Not sure who it was that put it that way but, it was humorous, even though inapt.)

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    1. Thank you James, I always appreciate your comments. Maybe we’ll hear from you again next year? 🤞

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    2. To@ I have always resented all of the insults, for trying to achieve PM. That may be; one of the best things about COLLINS book, it is totally absent of the insults and derision that other writers can't seam to leave out. Sam Peppiatt

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    3. Thank you Sam, appreciated.

      JC

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