Saturday, 21 March 2020

Bessler’s Wheel and the Orffyreus Code.

Apologies for putting this up again only I seem to have caught a cold, not  covivid-19 hopefully, and I’m not up to writing a blog.    I’ll return to the blog ASAP.       JC



The Legend of Johann Bessler’s Perpetual Motion Machine.


 The Truth Behind the Legend of Bessler’s Wheel and the Orffyrean Code

On 6th June, 1712, in Germany, Johann Bessler (also known by his pseudonym, Orffyreus) announced that after many years of failure, he had succeeded in designing and building a perpetual motion machine.  For more than fourteen years he exhibited his machine and allowed people to thoroughly examine it.  Following advice from the famous scientist, Gottfried Leibniz, he devised a number of demonstrations and tests designed to prove the validity of his machine without giving away the secret of its design.

Karl the Landgrave of Hesse permitted Bessler to live, work and exhibit his machine at the prince's castle of Weissenstein.  Karl was a man of unimpeachable reputation and he insisted on being allowed to verify the inventor's claims before he allowed Bessler to take up residence  This the inventor reluctantly agreed to and once he had examined the machine to his own satisfaction Karl authorised the  publication of his approval of the machine.  For several years Bessler was visited by numerous people of varying status, scientists, ministers and royalty as well as hundreds of  local inhabitants.  Several official examinations were carried out and each time the examiners concluded that the inventor's claims were genuine.

Over the years Karl’s health began to deteriorate and his sons decided that it was time for the inventor to leave the castle and he was given five years salary and accommodation in the nearby town of Karlshaven. Despite the strong circumstantial evidence that his machine was genuine, Bessler failed to secure a sale and after more than thirty years he died in poverty.  His death came after he fell from a windmill he had been commissioned to build.  The windmill was an interesting design using a vertical axle which allowed it to benefit from winds from any directions.  

He had asked for a huge sum of money for the secret of his perpetual motion machine, £20,000 which was an amount only affordable by kings and princes, and it’s no coincidence that this sum matched that being offered by the British Government as a reward for the invention of a way to establish a ships longitudinal position  at sea.  Bessler clearly believed his invention was equal in value.  Many people were interested in Bessler’s wheel, but none were prepared to agree to the terms of the deal. Bessler required that he be given the money and the buyer take the machine without viewing the internal workings.  Those who sought to purchase the wheel, for that was the form the machine took, insisted that they see the secret mechanism before they parted with the money. Bessler feared that once the design was known the buyers could simply walk away knowing how to build his machine and he would get nothing for his trouble.  He said that a bag of money should be put on the table and the buyer could take the wheel there and then.  He swore that if he was found cheating he should be beheaded, a not unlikely result if he was found to be a fraud and deceiving his ruler.

I became curious about the legend of Bessler’s Wheel, while still in my teens, and have spent most of my life researching the life of Johann Bessler (I’m now 74).  I obtained copies of all his books and had them translated into English and self-published them, in the hope that either myself or someone else might solve the secret and present it to the world in this time of pollution, global warming and increasingly limited energy resources.
This problem of acceptance by his potential buyers was anticipated by Bessler and he took extraordinary measures to ensure that his secret was safe, but he encoded all the information needed to reconstruct the machine in a small number of books that he published. He implied that he was prepared to die without selling the secret and that he believed that post humus acknowledgement was preferable to being robbed of his secret while he yet lived.

It has recently become clear that Bessler had a huge knowledge of the history of codes and adopted several completely different ones to disguise information within his publications.  I have made considerable advances in deciphering his codes and I am cautiously optimistic that I have the complete design.

Johann Bessler published three books, and digital copies of these with English translations may be obtained from the links to the right of this blog.  In addition there is a copy of his unpublished document containing some 141 drawings, his account of the search for perpetual motion - and my own account of Bessler’s life is also available from the links.  It is called "Perpetual Motion; An Ancient Mystery Solved?"  

Bessler's three published books are entitled "Grundlicher Bericht", "Apologia Poetica" and "Das Triumphirende...". I have called Bessler's collection of 141 drawings his Maschinen Tractate, but it was originally found in the form of a number of loosely collected drawings of perpetual motion designs. Many of these have handwritten notes attached and I have published the best English translation of them that I was able to get. Bessler never published these drawings but clearly intended to do so at some 


I and thousands of others around the world believe that Johann Bessler’s claim to have designed and built a perpetual motion machine, or a continuously rotating device enabled purely by gravity, was genuine.  The circumstantial evidence is compelling.  This device if reconstructed now, could potentially provide cheap clean electricity, and by reducing the need for fossil fuels, provide a huge step forward in reducing carbon emissions in a very short time.

For some ideas about Bessler’s code why not visit my web sites at
www.besslerswheel.com      and
www.orffyreus.net.                and
www.orffyreus.org

For more information go to www.free-energy.co.uk

JC 

177 comments:

  1. I posted this blog because the comments section in the previous one was getting too long! But I’m not complaining, it’s good to read so many comments. JC

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  2. Maybe you should just do like you been doing and post a new blog topic every Sunday. But, don't put a limit on the past blog's comments of just 200 or so. Sometimes late comers to that past blog might have some last minute comments they feel the need to make and it gives them a chance if that blog isn't locked down like you been doing. You've had past blogs that only got 5 comments to them and lately they been reaching 200 or more. Just let the traffic here decide what's too long. I don't think they will go much farther then 220 maybe at most before everyone starts commenting on the new blog. If someone don't like a past blog that's too long for him he can just scan through it or just read the new blog that's still growing.

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  3. Well, here it is, Besslers’s MT-21 in Algodoo. As mentioned in the previous blog.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUpqhyQSFKA

    I learned a lot from building this. I did not expect that when I downloaded it just a few days ago. You need to be a little creative though combining and positioning the shapes. There are not that many features and basically it is no harder than a simple game. You just need a little practice. Again, give it a try and build a simple pendulum. There’s a tutorial on YouTube how to do that. Then try to connect them in a wheel. It is great fun.

    @Suresh:
    I’m sorry to read that I am misleading and affecting your mission adversely with my "cartoons". I was not aware of that and was merely trying to help everyone by pointing out a cheap and simple way to test their ideas. If this cuts the legs out from under your chair, it is totally unintentional and nothing more than an unfortunate side effect. Again, I am sorry, but sometimes shit happens.

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    1. Keep posting Marinus, I like to see what you have done. JC

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    2. @marinus

      Don't mind SK. He's just envious that you are simming and have something interesting to show us here unlike him with his various vague clues about clubs and pillars that he thinks has the secret of B's wheels in them but doesn't. Keep those sims coming because it looks like you are getting better and better at making them. As for that model of MT 21 you made, wonder what would happen if you added a spring between each lever and the wheel rim that would help push the lever toward the paddles in the center when a lever got to around the 7:30 to 8:00 location?

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    3. There's a more cheaper and simpler way to test an idea... mental way... thought experiment ing...

      Since the bessler secret mechanism is also very simple it can thought out by ruling out the odds...

      It is when you consider it to be very complicated that you get the need for such tools as Algodo... through which still it would be unreachable...

      Why not we have it the natural way... the bessler way... you don't want to miss all the scenes enroute, do you?...

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    4. "There's a more cheaper and simpler way to test an idea... mental way... thought experiment ing..."

      That's the method used by the "armchair philosophers". It's produced no results in the last three hundred years.

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  4. Algodo has been highlighted several times in the past 10 years...and, it has led us nowhere so far... people have been trying...
    I would like to know if Algodo can really give us any insight into the unique bessler mechanism...
    Can it help us understand what Karl saw inside...
    Since the bessler's secret design is a matter of unique action of weights involving critical measurements that is not seen in any other machinery or technology... will we come to know that special lever-weight design and that unique arrangement through Algodo...
    Only an out of the box thinking looks promising IMO... Algodo can also deny us that thrill which a natural investigating efforts yield... and this feeling of achievement is of Paramount important to a would be inventor...
    Does Algodo have any previous record of achievement of this dimension to its credit...
    Great historical ground breaking inventions/discoveries are a result of genius efforts by highly outstanding persons...as we can see...
    Bessler wheel recreation is not less a task if you ask me...it will take great mental efforts plus lots and lots of common sense...
    I agree Algodo it a great tool and may be very time saving in ruling out the 141 drawings one by one...
    But does it have the ability to cast a discerning eye on all the 141 drawings and finally make out the bessler design which is not an easy task and which is like finding a needle in a haystack...




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    1. SK wrote "I would like to know if Algodo can really give us any insight into the unique bessler mechanism."

      No, but if we happen to find what we think is that "unique Bessler mechanism" based on the clues that we have, then Algodoo can let us know if it works or not. It doesn't do the thinking for us. We still have to do that.

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    2. When we form that right mechanism in our mind
      You really wouldn't need Algodo to tell us that IT is the one... you will natural be sure that you have hit it... instantly...

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    3. There are thousands of pm wheel designs out there that look so simple that they have to work. But when someone builds one of them or simulates it they are useless. When it comes to OOB wheels there is no such thing as being "natural sure" of any of them working. You got to build or sim it to really be sure.

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    4. Yes, there are many out there that look simple but when you sim they are useless...
      I agree with this...
      This happens most of the time... that is until you hit the right one...and this cud take days, even years...
      It is not wise to build or sim all that appears in thought...
      It is Archimedes suddenly realizing it the moment he steps in into the bathtub...
      That's the feeling to look for...laymen won't understand all this...
      Its the eureka moment...
      Suppose you tie a rope to a branch of a tree on a mountain and stand at a distance holding that rope you don't have to build or sim to confirm that you will successfully start swinging if you jump...you will know for sure that it will work...
      In the case of Bessler wheel it is first necessary to find out what Technic is the best to raise the weights effortlessly...
      This can take hours and hours of rummaging the thoughts to arrive at that promising one...

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    5. Man that's deep. Your wisdom must be endless.

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  5. Well, the parts that I ordered finally arrived! Now it’s time to start putting this contraption together. Hope to see some positive results this time!

    By the way, I seen the word (genius) in the comment above and thought that I was being talked about.

    Funny, only my wife calls me that.... I wonder what she means? 🤣

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    1. She using what's called "irony" which means the opposite of what's said. Most guys find that their spouses, who they would think would be so supportive, could not care less about their search for pm or even put it down whenever it's mentioned. The only place you might get some support will be online and even that's not guaranteed. Most pm chasers chase alone like a hungry lone wolf out in the wild.

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  6. The last cartoon especially for Suresh. It’s about Perpetualman’s Roberval balance. Maybe in the end he will understand the children play clue.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo_ztluUND4

    I am off to some serious work now and I don’t think I will put that in a video. It might bring someone to ideas and we don’t want that to happen. Of course it is still a race to fame and fortune and I think I can see the finish.

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    1. Lol! That last one looks like two alcoholics taking turns downing booze from their bottles and then smacking the bottles down on a table between them! Yeah I know they're supposed to be hammers they're holding. Nice video though which shows how easy it is to make accurate models with Algodoo. I think you will encourage a lot of newbie pm wheel chasers to try it out.

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  7. Yellow sir, in the meanwhile, would you let us know what really makes you so sure about the involvement of an additional force?...
    Why do you feel that gravity is inadequate?...

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  8. SK wrote 20 March 20: "In the wake of recent Yellow sir's challenge it is important we hurry and succeed at the earliest to prove him wrong...I have decided to take up the build and introduce the good news through your esteemed blog shortly..."

    "There's a more cheaper and simpler way to test an idea... mental way... thought experimenting..."

    I think Algodoo is even cheaper than a thought experiment, could be wrong. I wonder if SK will seek its wise counsel for the simplest of mechanics, just done in a unique way?

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  9. My point is why test it out in Algodo...
    Why not rule out it out in mind... thoughts are faster in this regard...
    Why a simple thing like this is not being understood?...
    I will give you an analogy...
    The Sunday class is the same...
    The teacher is the same...
    The message is the same...
    But the level of understanding of the students varies...
    Some understand a little...
    Some a little more...
    Some a lot...
    Some everything...
    Some nothing...
    And some even revolt or critisize...
    Everyone is not a genius like bessler...
    In bessler community we are running a race...
    In our own lanes...
    Which doesn't have a common goal...
    The competition here is introverted...
    Not extroverted...in an extroverted situation... It is either you or me...
    You may buy a new bat but that doesn't make you a better batsman...
    The key is in understanding it the right way...it is the competence level...
    In the hands of a competent person when the right brush, the right canvas and the right painting is there and that is the unbeatable combination... the bessler competence...
    When I say something like that you will it when you hit the jackpot and you don't need a simulation for that...it is not necessary that everyone will understand...
    The competent person can make out things in a maze... you can make out a movement in the 141 drawings...
    Sadly, what is happening is just argument...

    You will go on and on arguing and when that doesn't work start trolling...

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    1. "...you will it when you hit the jackpot and you don't need a simulation for that..."

      Every pm wheel chaser except Bessler out there so far who was convinced he was going to "hit the jackpot" eventually only hit a sh*tpot. Good sims made before building could have cut way down on the number of those he collected over the years so he wouldn't waste so much time with them. Time is limited and should not be wasted chasing after sh*tpots if you want to have the most chance of finding your jackpot during your life.

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  10. Update. Latest figure is 300,000+ cases of corona virus infection worldwide so far with over 13,000 deaths, but that is only a fraction of actual cases because only a fraction of infected people ever get tested. Actual cases could be several millions by now and deaths in the hundreds of thousands because there was no autopsy done on the corpse of a victim in most poor countries to determine if he had the corona virus.

    Iran only started to report a small number of deaths a few days ago and their hospital workers were warned not to give out any information. But recent top secret spy satellite photos of Iran show mass graves being dug all over the country.

    Meanwhile hospitals are trying to figure out some way to put two or three patients on a single ventilator to keep them all alive. Hopefully that won't spread the virus back and forth from one patient to the other! I'd feel weird being on the same machine that someone who just died next to me is also still attached to!

    Since last February the US stock market has lost $12 TRILLION USD in value. Funeral homes, however, are doing just fine financially.

    Here's an excellent site that will let you keep track of the growing pandemic:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


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    1. I feel sorry for those people in North Korea. Their state controlled news agency probably hasn't even told them that there's a pandemic going on in their region and they're all dying like flies with no medical attention. But, you can be sure that the fat little dictator Kim and his corrupt regime are well protected. I wonder what our spy satellites keeping that country under surveillance are showing.

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    2. Came back to UK Dec.24, 2018, blessed to get job at age 64, returned to old job as maintenance electrician in NHS.
      Will do my duty.
      After seeing Gtech on news making ventilators, have contacted them about using a device called, Shisi Odoshi, to compress the bladder of the manual ventilators.
      No complicated controls needed. Just a small water pump. No reply yet.

      STEVO

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    3. Let's all hope that John's cold isn't due to covid-19 and that he's over it as soon as possible.

      I'm convinced that the real problem isn't covid-19 but weak human immune systems. Some people who get infected have no symptoms while others die on ventilators. Same virus only different immune systems involved. Some are very strong and others are very weak. The doctors don't seem to do much to strengthen a patient's immune system. They are all too busy treating symptoms to keep the patient alive and trying to figure out how to kill the virus.

      Since this pandemic started I've increased my vitamin C intake up to an extra 500 mg per day in addition to the 60 mg in my daily multiple vitamin / mineral tablet. I recommend the chewable vitamin C tablets because they are easier on the mouth and stomach and have a nice orange flavor to them. You also need to make sure you are getting at least 15 mg of zinc per day which most daily multiple vitamin / mineral tablets have in them. If yours does not have that much then either switch to a brand that does or get separate 10 or 15 mg zinc tablets to take. Your total zinc intake by supplements should not exceed about 25 mg per day.

      These two supplements will boost your immune system's strength and if a corona virus or any other virus manages to get inside of your body it will have about as much chance of surviving there as a snowflake in hell! But even with this extra protection don't go looking for trouble. Keep your distance from anyone that looks sick, do not touch you eyes, nose, or mouth when in public, and make sure you use hand sanitizer before re-entering your home so you don't put virus all over door knobs and handles to infect others.

      According to what I'm seeing in the news we are still at the very beginning of this pandemic and things are going to get much worse in the coming weeks. It's still not too late to strengthen your immune system so that if you have to leave your home for food, doctor's appointments, or to go an essential job, you will have maximum protection.

      Henry L.

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    4. Echinacea also helps, especially the lungs and respiratory tract.


      STEVO

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    5. STEVO, Are you having any luck with your pendulums? At the momentIM STUCK---------sAM

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    6. Update. A new and improved bail out plan for the collapsing US economy is being considered that will now cost US taxpayers $2 TRILLION USD. With it even those who did not pay any federal taxes for 2019 because their Gross Adjusted Taxable Income was too low (below $12,000 USD) will be getting several checks to help stimulate the economy. Those checks however will only be for about $600 USD each instead of the $1200 or more USD that the good hardworking actual taxpayers will get. One would think that the poorer someone is the more money he or she should be getting, but no that's now how it works in America. Better to keep the poor poor so they don't get used to a little living like the rich. That might make them all demand pay increases if and when they finally go back to work! The Democrats are blocking the bill in the US Senate because they claim it's really designed to help rich corporations, their top executives' salaries, and their investors more than it will help the average working stiff in those companies. What a surprise!

      Meanwhile several US Senators are in hot water. Apparently they were caught selling off large quantities of their stocks just BEFORE the US stock market went off a cliff. What a coincidence! They made the sales using information about the coming pandemic and what would happen to business profits in the US because of efforts to contain its spread. They used information NOT yet available to the public to make sure they would have no financial losses when stock prices collapsed. Using such "inside information" for stock and bond trades is known as "insider trading" and is ILLEGAL. It should be interesting to see if any of them are ever prosecuted. People have to remember that in most countries, the US included, there are actually two sets of laws. One is for the poor and the other is for the rich. A rich person who is guilty is often treated far better and more leniently than a poor person who is innocent!

      There could also be some sort of weird religious bigotry involved in this practice. Poor people are believed to be poor because they displease God and more naturally prone to doing immoral and criminal acts. They need to be more harshly punished to get them to clean up their acts. Otoh, the wealth of rich people is considered a sign that God favors them and so they need to either not punished at all or just given a little slap on the wrist. Most likely they only broke the law because some evil poor person tricked them into doing so! Punishing a rich person the same way a poor person is punished for the same crime might offend God. Better not risk that. Case against the rich person who "accidentally" diverted millions of USD of other people's money into his secret off shore bank accounts dismissed! Meanwhile throw that poor person who stole less of value into prison for twenty years to teach him and the rest of the poor a lesson! Who cares what effect that punishment will have on his marriage, children, or family. It's his own fault for stealing that loaf of bread from his local supermarket.

      The head of the US Federal Reserve System recently said that he thinks US unemployment could reach 30% which will be higher than the 25% it was during the Great Depression of the 1930's. Let's all hope that's all it reaches!


      Anonymous and PROUD of it!

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    7. @ Sam,
      Not tried to make anything yet, work at a hospital, very little time nowadays.

      STEVO

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    8. Update. One economist estimates that restoring the US economy to what it was before the COVID-19 Crash will require the US government to borrow and spend about another $5 trillion USD. Since the current US National Debt is $23.3 USD that will take it up to $28.3 trillion USD. With all of the other costs of operating the US government included, it won't be long before that debt is up to or over $30 trillion USD. That's an incredible amount of money to take from the incomes of future generations to pay back to those who lent the money to the US government.

      The politicians are already trying to figure out how to make all of that debt just go away since it can never be paid off and will only keep increasing if the global financial system is not changed in a big way from what it currently is. One quick solution is a global depression that eliminates all forms of debt such as stocks, bonds, and loans by making them legally noncollectable. Everyone then starts from scratch with only the property they actually have in their possession as their wealth. In such a situation having as much gold, nonperishable food, and land to grow more food on as possible is a good thing as well as some weapons to protect it all from those who will try to steal it. Very similar to the kind of economic system they had back in Bessler's day!

      Think it can't possibly happen? Actually, it's already happened in various countries during the 20th century, but never on a total global level before. Maybe this time it will!

      Meanwhile, China has been buying up gold by the ton!


      Anonymous and PROUD of it!

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    9. STEVO, I see-------yes, you have to take care of business. I wish you well. Sam

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    10. When someone is going to reveal Bessler's secret now, then the disaster is complete. Better wait until this is all behind us and the economy is a little stronger before giving it another blow.

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    11. No time like the present!

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    12. Update. Yesterday Britain's Boris Johnson, their smarter version of Trump, closed down businesses there and he wants everyone to stay home unless it's absolutely necessary to leave their home in which case no gatherings of more than two people (family members excluded) is allowed. Meanwhile, the US' Trump is getting antsy and wants this corona virus business shutdown nonsense ended in the next two weeks at most! It does not matter to him that the epidemic experts say that's too early and will only allow the infection to flare up and spread faster as it goes on to kill millions of Americans. He's listening to the millionaire and billionaire business people buddies of his who chat with him nightly on the phone and are all complaining about how much money they are losing! Can't allow that to go on much longer. Fortunately, it is not Trump who is deciding whether or not a state's nonessential businesses are shut down. It's up to the state's governor and most are keeping things shut down until their experts tell them it's safe to open them again. Right now the US is about two weeks behind what's happening over in Italy and things over there right now are scary!

      The first two versions of the US Congress's stimulus plan failed to pass. Democrats say the Republican version was intended to make the rich richer while the Republicans said the Democrat version was giving away too much to the poor. They're working on plan #3 now. Meanwhile, no Americans have seen any money from the US Treasury yet and their rents are coming due.

      Interesting move by the US Federal Reserve yesterday too. They announced that they will offer unlimited buy back of their Treasury bonds. That allows companies holding them to redeem them directly from the US Treasure instead of having to dump them on the bond market which would then cause that market to crash like the stock market and wipe out the value of a lot of retirees' bond portfolios. Nothing more upsetting to a retiree than seeing the value of his bond portfolio crash.

      My question is what are we supposed to do if we see a novel corona virus pandemic happening every year? Are we supposed to shut down the world economy every year to minimize the total number of fatalities? This is a question no one is even thinking about at the moment. So far there are millions of businesses that will never recover from the present pandemic. This thing is definitely going to change the way the world works and do so in a big way.


      Anonymous and PROUD of it!

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    13. Update. According to the news 110+ million Americans have now been told to stay home and only leave if absolutely necessary. That's about one third of the entire US' population!

      Supposedly, the US government has tens of thousands of ventilators stashed away in storage, but don't want to release them to the states. The governors are up in arms about that saying they need them NOW! The government keeps telling them that they are making arrangements for private companies to start making the ventilators they need. But, that could take MONTHS during which thousands will die! There's going to be a real uproar if holding back on those ventilators results in a lot of Americans especially older ones dying off.

      I'm dreading what this situation will look like in another two weeks with the number of infections doubling every 3 days! Two weeks is 21 days or 7 doublings. Do the math. 2x2x2x2x2x2x2 = 128 times more infections then we have now. Let's hope everyone staying shut up in their homes can reduce that number.


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    14. I been staying in my room drunk on and off for over a week now afraid of going outside and getting infected with that corona virus disease. This morning I saw a spider in one of the corners and started talking to it. We had an interesting conversation. I found out he's a web designer.

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    15. LOL! Good one, anon 21:44

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    16. Update. Finally some good news! The US Congress approved a $2 trillion USD "Corona Virus Economic Recovery Package" last night to save the US economy. That means nice fat $1200 USD Treasury checks will be on their way to American adults and you don't have to have paid any federal income taxes for 2019. They should all arrive before April 1st. You also get an extra $500 USD for each kid you have. There is a bit of a disappointment for small business owners though. Many of them which are one and two person operations won't be seeing anything to help with their business losses. The details are complicated, but will be explained to everyone in the letters soon to arrive.

      The number of US citizens told to stay home is now HALF of the population or about 170 million people! We're still only at the beginning of the pandemic here and right now it's anybody's guess how high the peak number of people needing to be on ventilators to survive will be. We can only hope and pray that it doesn't exceed the total number of machines available because, if it does, those excess patients will die. Most likely if the number of patients needing a ventilator exceeds the maximum available machines, they will triage the patients with the oldest and sickest left to die while the younger ones get the machines. If that happens, expect all hell to break loose with our "healthcare" system in the US. Will we finally get government administered "Medicare for All" like the rest of the industrialized countries of the world have? Hell yes, that will be demanded by the population from the next President and Congress and they know it. The super rich are also dreading the BIG increase in their taxes that will be required to pay for it all. Many right now are even contemplating renouncing their US citizenship to avoid that coming hit on their incomes.

      This pandemic is a "game changer" as they say. Who knows how long it will take for things to get back to normal again. Only a few weeks ago the US economy was said to be booming. Now we are on the verge of a total worldwide economic collapse! Amazing what a difference a few weeks can make.


      Anonymous and PROUD of it!

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    17. Update. There's been a few last minute changes to that "Corona Virus Economic Recovery Package". Apparently, they will only be sending $600 USD checks out to everyone, but will be sending them out biweekly. That's so they can cut them off at any time. There's also another glitch. It will take at least 3 more weeks before the first checks go out or direct deposits are made into people's checking accounts. Hope the landlords are understanding about the delay.

      Hospital workers are bracing for the peak number of patients requiring machine ventilation to survive in the coming weeks. Still no accurate estimate on what that will be and how many will be dying because they won't get a machine to help their infected lungs keep breathing. Inventive types are looking for ways to make ventilators. Some Polish company just uploaded the data files for a 3D printed ventilator that they say they tested and which works effectively. Maybe we'll see the hospitals rapidly being equipped with them. Either that or they will have to have nurses taking turns squeezing the rubber bulbs on those manual ventilators that they use when they are transferring a ventilated patient from one room to another on a gurney!

      Meanwhile, some expert just announced that by the end of today the US will have more corona virus cases than China now has!


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    18. Update. On the east coast of the US they are still several weeks away from the "peak" of the cases of corona virus infected people that will be showing up at hospitals. Some hospitals plan to have refrigerated trucks parked outside to hold all of the corpses of those that died because they didn't have a ventilator to put them on!


      Anonymous and PROUD of it!

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    19. I think Henry L. above gave some good advice about taking the vitamin C. I just heard that when you have serious corona virus symptoms that land you in a hospital's intensive care unit, the first thing they do is give you intravenous vitamin C! I'm going to start taking a 500 mg tablet every day like he recommends. Better safe than sorry.

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  11. SK wrote: "When I say something like that you will it when you hit the jackpot and you don't need a simulation for that...it is not necessary that everyone will understand..."

    If I had a buck for every time I've heard that, usually from arm chair philosophers with little build or mechanical experience.

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  12. I don't think so. Bessler said that a motion and movement could be found in the MT's. SK says the same about a movement (swinging). Bessler said it would take a discerning mind. SK says the same ie. competence in mechanical matters. Bessler said he found it where everybody else had looked. SK says it's a simple mechanical arrangement enacted in a unique way. So far nothing new there. SK says you don't need any simulation to prove the mechanics once seen. Quite right, as Bessler didn't use a simulator so we don't have too either. Bessler had 10 years of thought experimenting and real builds behind him. SK has thought experiments but is going to start a build. His actual competency is unknown, as he hasn't shown any real builds, simulations, or given any detail of his theory. Clearly Bessler's mechanical OOB solution is mechanically counter-intuitive otherwise it would have been discovered by now. Competence is one thing and undue confidence another. Even if the solution is so simple why not simulate it, since Algodoo is free and the result confidential to yourself? Delusion is a place easy to get to and hard to escape from with no sanity checks and balances. A sim a start, though admittedly not essential.

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    1. "Quite right, as Bessler didn't use a simulator so we don't have too either."

      If Bessler had simulation software available to him he would have immediately used it and then he might have found his working OOB wheel design in only 3 instead of 10 years. Anyone not using simulation nowadays is really only needlessly handicapping his efforts and delaying how long it will take him to find success if he's meant to find it at all. Unfortunately, this new approach to pm chasing won't guarantee anyone success. It will just help shift the odds a little in his favor.

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    2. You are still not getting the point...there exists one such mechanical combination and when that appears in the mind you will be very
      Certain and there won't be any need for algodoing...it will be aldogooding...

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  13. Can the bessler secret leak through Algodo when we download the same in our computing devices?... can it be hacked?...is it foolproof?...

    Say, that it is found to be successfully working in Algodo, what next?...
    People will still not believe... they'll insist on seeing it... it happened during bessler times... distractors will always be around... these days it has changed... distractors are known as trolls...
    I am very certain that it will work...it has been my baby for so many years...
    I just want to what makes Yellow sir feel that there's more to it than gravity...did he use Algodo?...
    If we had good trolls around what a pleasant thing that Would be...

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  14. It is easy for people contemplating suicide these days but too scared to execute the same... they just have to hug or kiss an infected person...one guy ran out fast from the hospital bed and jumped off the floor...he was brought from the airport straight and quarantined...he couldn't simply digest the fact...this is really a dreaded disease...
    What would happen to our bessler research?... this horrible enemy May slow our progress...as our mind is too preoccupied with the global scare... thank God, bessler didn't have to face such an enemy... this is more crippling than what Amy is undergoing...even Alzheimer and Parkinson's have taken a backseat...
    Thanks to Ken for keeping us updated...I have a feeling now that Ken is becoming a good troll... his sincere concerns for the global scare is genuine...
    Be SAFE...

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    1. "...thank God, bessler didn't have to face such an enemy..."

      Actually, there were outbreaks of the Black Plague as late as the 17th and 18th centuries. Newton made some of his discoveries about gravity on his mother's farm during a period when Cambridge was shut down in 1667 because of an outbreak of the Black Plague in England and all of its students were sent home. The Great Plague of 1738 was another outbreak between 1738 and 1740 that affected large parts of eastern Europe. It's estimated that the epidemic likely killed over 50,000 people. Covid-2019 is actually mild compared to the death rate caused by the Black Plague which was made a lot worse by the poor sanitation back then.

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  15. UK, Italy... were caught napping but not so in India... the thing is under great control... but there's no mention in bessler literature about those dreaded diseases...
    Talking about bessler Wheel... only people of such stature as Trevor can really comprehend inventions of this nature...
    There is great fun and a sense of achievement involved in the natural way... these days even the act of an exhilerating laugh is replaced by an emoji...lol...a hearty laugh is a thing of the past...ok... let us see... right here...who really makes good progress... the algodians or the besslerites...

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    1. "UK, Italy... were caught napping but not so in India... the thing is under great control..."

      India has officially had 425 cases and 8 deaths so far. But the pandemic is just starting to get underway around the world. The figures for all countries will be going up much higher in the coming weeks. Also, like Iran, a lot of governments are purposely under reporting their cases in an effort to make their countries look more hygienic than others and to help keep trade with the rest of the world from decreasing further by suggesting it's safer to trade with those countries with the lowest numbers of cases.

      India is a crowded country like China where infectious diseases can spread rapidly and could be downplaying their actual cases and deaths. They could also not be adequately testing people for the virus. It's been noticed that when the number of tests are doubled, the number of cases detected also doubles! We really don't know how many tests most of the countries reporting figures have done. All of these figures could be very inaccurate.

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  16. SK wrote: "Talking about bessler Wheel... only people of such stature as Trevor can really comprehend inventions of this nature..."

    Such lofty heights from your pedestal.

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  17. The problem in my case is components...yes, I am not at all worried whether it would work...my concept is ready since years...if I can get my hands on ready made parts of my specifications it is just a matter of hours...

    COVED-19... people living in remote areas like aboriginals, tribesmen and those living in jungles must be living without any guilt...or fear of the virus...

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    1. When those tribesmen out in the jungle die from COVID-19 everyone just dismisses it all as due to some evil spirit getting into them. They do have fear only they take care of it by protecting themselves and trying to cure the ill patient with various magic spells, powders, charms, and rituals provided, for a price, by their village's witch doctor. If these don't work and even more die, they eventually blame their witch doctor for being a fraud and promptly execute him. Primitive people have little tolerance for quacks!

      In the civilized world when a patient dies from the virus, everyone blames the patient for not being more careful to wash his hands, avoid being in a crowd, etc. His doctor is considered a hero who tried to save him and will make more money the longer he tried before the patient finally died. Then a funeral home comes in to make its profit off of the "final expenses" of the "dear departed" at a time when his survivors are most vulnerable and likely to pay for a funeral that is grossly over priced. In the US right now, the average funeral costs over $8,000 dollars. Funeral homes want it all in advance of any preparation of and burial of the body which can lay in a freezer for months accumulating a storage fee until all of the money is paid or the survivors decide on a cheaper cremation which can still cost over $1,000 dollars. Making profits off of other family's tragedies is big business in the civilized world.

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    2. SK "The problem in my case is components...yes, I am not at all worried whether it would work...my concept is ready since years...if I can get my hands on ready made parts of my specifications it is just a matter of hours..."

      Only days away!

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  19. Yeh...it may not take off...
    Why would a wheel have to fly?... unless it is a flying saucer... out of the world object...
    A self rotating wheel on the ground didn't hold ground... how will people react to one in the sky?...

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  20. Gravity can work against you only if you go against gravity...
    Bessler wheel is gravity savvy...it is designed to remain aligned with gravity on both side s...up and down... gravity naturally helps the weights raise themselves up...

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  21. Drink lots of water John. It really helps me during flu.

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    1. Thanks yellow, trying hard to swallow enough!

      JC

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    2. You have to drink John. Your body requires water right now.
      I cannot tell enough how effective it is.

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    3. Some doctor over in England recently discovered that there is a simple sign that you have Covid-19 that shows up before any of the other symptoms. That sign is if you suddenly lose your sense of smell and taste for no apparent reason. So, if you can still smell and taste anything then you don't have the corona virus. Of course, you could still have the usual seasonal flu and that can have symptoms just a bad or even worse than Covid-19.

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    1. It will end up as another fairy tale...
      The code concept was started to make things look more mysterious...it is supposed to be an eternal dodging game...to keep one from learning the reality...to protect author's fame...to maintain the thrill...
      But the clue concept is genuine...
      So, don't forget to include clues in your fictional venture...

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  23. I finally finished designing all the parts that I need. Next step, drill the holes, get the right chain length, make the weights, and then offset the CG.

    JB Weld sure gets messy!

    Perpetualman.

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  24. There is a real case from today's real world, where PM inventor has done almost all as John plans to do here.
    The inventor has made several videos about his real-world machine, + has been in the news with it, + has publicly shown EVERY machine's internal mechanism, workings and talked about how and why this machine works.
    Questions from the above. Even we have seen EVERYTHING, videos, technical drawings and explanations.
    It all seems strange to me that even we "believers", have not made any replica of it? Why?
    About who I talk here?

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    1. Why did you bring it up? We are serious about PM and he does not seem to understand the world around him. He is a conman.

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    2. Ok. Maybe it comes out with the next hint.
      Nobody seems to remember the things that happened at least more than a decade(s) ago, not the things that just happened now?! At the very least, I do not remember any serious statements about the construction of the real world build PM after that!
      About who I talk about?

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    3. I'll say it out here by myself, I was thinking here - Reidar Finsrud.
      Next question: Who from us (I mean here "PM" believers) believe that his version of PM is real? Taking into account all available information about it.

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      No it's not pm and Finsrud never says it is. He only calls it a kinetic sculpture. The track the ball rolls around on is constantly slightly dipped ahead of the moving ball and that's done by those long pendulums hanging down to the bottom of the pedestal base. The base has battery powered electromagnets hidden inside of it that attract permanent magnets in the pendulums to keep them swinging and the track above dipping. Don't be fooled by it. He has to replace the batteries that make it run every month or so. He's used it to attract attention for his studio and other artwork.

      Henry L.

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    5. @ "Ken´ry L." (where does the rumor begin)
      I respect your writing talent, "Henry L.". But can you provide any proof or evidence to your answer, especially the battery side!? Otherwise, it's just your opinion only.
      After you provide any proof of it, I will apologize also that I called you firstly Ken´ry here.
      PS And proof is not your next long written text here. Please provide some external links "ONLY", where is shown or talked about same things you have written about batteries here. Links that are produced by you do not go on account. (Otherwise, you will expose yourself here, that you are really K...)
      No any hard feelings here, i´ts just science!

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    6. I agree with Henry L's analysis. Here's a youtube video of Finsrud's "pm" machine. It has a lot of extra unnecessary moving part distractions on it to confuse a viewer, but the circular track is actually being made to very slightly precess solely by the three pendulum weights at the ends of the stiff metal rods hanging down to the base. Ignore the nonsense explanation of the narrator. Notice the base is made of brass. Why? That's so the fields from the hidden battery powered electromagnets under the base can reach the three pendulum weights and keep them swinging. If the base was steel then the electromagnets' fields would not be able to reach and affect the pendulum weights. How this was done is obvious to those who have seen a lot of hoaxed machines.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq2BII29oKM

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    7. @PLMKRN

      Ken’ry L: ==>> LMAO

      “PS And proof is not your next long written text here. Please provide some external links "ONLY", where is shown or talked about same things you have written about batteries here.”

      Well, He ignored that. Hahahaha.


      Anon Ken’ry L wrote: “Ignore the nonsense explanation of the narrator.”

      Yeah, sure… We should not believe that the pendulums are driven by permanent magnets. But we should believe that they are driven by electromagnets. Which is actually the same but then you need a,… “battery”.

      Beautiful machine! But not true PM like Bessler wheels. It’s more like a cuckoo’s clock running on magnets. The see-saw balance is also nice but no true PM. You can’t lift 70 lbs with these devices. If you make them really BIG, then maybe you might. But it has to be really BIG.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bft7Wd8QElw

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    8. @"Ken´ry"
      As I have not changed your name here jet, this means you have not convinced me that R.F. uses batteries in his PM. But you convince me, and many others here, with you act ... again, that you are really Ken, not Henry or Ken´ry or just Anon.
      For this kind of accuse, there need some physical evidence or any proof from the third party. Otherwise, any person who claims this kind of "things", without knowing the real background, will be like Anne Rose Mauersberger in Bessler's story.

      @"Kenonymous" 25 March 2020 at 13:01
      Here is a link to explain brass magnetic properties. Brass has almost the same magnetic properties as copper or aluminum. But there is a "but ... ", see corresponding videos.
      https://terpconnect.umd.edu/~wbreslyn/magnets/is-brass-magnetic.html
      Eddy currents are acting as a shield to magnetic field.
      http://g3rbj.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Eddy-Currents-final-2.pdf
      Seems you already know, electricity and magnetic field are inseparable.
      Now, put both changing electromagnetic field and brass together and you will get ... Eddy currents. And from that Eddy current, brass (or aluminum or copper) will come to induction heater ... and both them make tremendous energy loss in the energy input side. So batteries will not last even one day in this kind of energy lossy setup, rather a few minutes. Ok ... depends on batteries amount in the system, there need them a lot of them, to last 14 days.

      @All
      For me, there is no difference what name someone like to use here or what kind of belives they carry. Different thinking only enriches our world and gives some "at first glance strange ideas" to get new clues to move on. But bringing just things out without any third-party proof, this will not work finally. What I mean by that: Making a working device is only one part of the picture, the second part must explain all with today's "scientific world words" with third party real-world proofs. Without that there is no any progress in our field. Machine maker will stay just a Machine maker ... with his own beliving.
      Believe me, there are a lot of different and tons of proofs out here, to Bessler wheel. There just must find them. And Reidar F. machine belongs to one of them. There is more in his story then firstly can gasp ... a lot of positive, but also negative things. (this negative to not mean automatically something bad, if we learn something from this). We must learn from his effort something ... Because of that, I was bringing Reidar out here.

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  25. Because many don't believe Ken's explanation of why HE thinks his wheel will work. That being that his wheel delivers asymmetric torque conditions causing it to accelerate to an operating RPM. Many believe continuous OOB is a requirement, or at the very least asymmetric torque, for a gravity PM wheel. However our own experiences suggest that his design has only symmetric torque potential. And if his sim shows otherwise, whatever the reason, it is not reflecting what a real world build of the same design would deliver. Ergo the sim and the explanation is erroneous and a misrepresentation. IMO.

    -f

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    1. Ken... your wheel does not match with the clues in the poem...

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    2. For get the poem, Ken’s wheel does not match the documented evidence of the witnesses.

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    3. Actually I found that Ken B's wheel explains all of the witness reports and makes complete sense of the various clues we have from the Bessler translations. So far it's the only wheel I've seen that does that.

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    4. You found all that? You have a vivid imagination!

      JC

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    5. Reff. Time 12:15 I'm so sick of you I could throw up-----------Sam

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    6. -f wrote: "Many believe continuous OOB is a requirement, or at the very least asymmetric torque, for a gravity PM wheel. However our own experiences suggest that his design has only symmetric torque potential. And if his sim shows otherwise, whatever the reason, it is not reflecting what a real world build of the same design would deliver."

      AFAIK Ken B.'s design, which he always states is Bessler's design and not his, IS an OOB type wheel. You can see in his video that the COG of the wheel is always on the side going down and at about the same distance from the center of the axle. It has to have a more or less constant net torque as a result. But that torque is very low which fits in with Bessler saying the torque of his first 3 foot wheel was very low and it could only barely turn itself. I agree with Ken that the wheel Bessler showed on June 6th 1712 was a second larger more powerful version of his first prototype wheel. If an actual real build of that design he has will actually work is anyone's guess right now. But it sure looks like it should.

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    7. I'm also a Ken B wheel believer. It's really just a spring enhanced overbalanced wheel but has an interesting twist to it. Instead of just having the weight lever going from 9 to 10:30 lifted by the cords and springs of the weight levers ahead of it toward the descending side, that 9 o'clock weight lever gets an additional boost from the dropping weight lever going from 6 to 7:30. That must be how it can work. Nobody else tried this before as far as I know. If anybody hasn't seen his wheel video it's here:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nP7KY6_EAM

      He recommends watching it full screen at HD or 720p and at 0.25 x normal speed to better see the lever motions. The wheel's diameter is 3.5 feet which means that the levers are each about 6 inches long.

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  26. Does anyone yet Know Jack about the Bessler wheel? Ba dump bump. Because if you don't know Jack you will never understand the parallel meaning as he stated. "as mentioned previously." Then the Odyssey begins. A little simple clue what does it tell you to do? And then you ask another question where is that quote from? And then I say being responsible, which will you have the red pill or the blue pill? And you probably ask for the red pill. And I say no problem. first I only need to know one thing for record. What is your true name? because if you can't be honest with me what good is truth to you. that's the catch two by two or 22. Don't worry you can always take the blue pill and live in Bliss ignorant of the world around you. After a while you won't even remember you had a choice and of course this was all a fantasy. You're right with great truth comes great responsibility! Who needs that anyway ? You don't have to worry I won't tell anyone you took the blue pill and blue it. Rimshot Ba Dump Bump!

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      With SG climbing his ladders, ringing bells, and pulling curtains aside while SK plays with his clubs between the pillars, we'll all know Jack about the Bessler wheel mystery in no time! So put your tasty blue pills away because they are about to hand out a big supply of bitter red pills to all of us.

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  27. I know one thing. I know Ken's wheel won't work. And, I'm probably the dumb's guy on this forum. Anyone that claims it will work, is just kidding himself--------sorry to say. Sam

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    1. No need to apologise Sam, I know it won’t work too. I don’t know why ‘someone’ keeps posting supporting comments, unless it’s Ken, himself.

      JC

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    2. John Collins, Hope you are feeling better. I've been trying to figure this guy out. What does he get out of it? He is obviously smart enough to know that the wheel won't work. I think it's just a game of his. To be constantly jacking us up. Maybe he is insane-----------Sam

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    3. 14:06 I don't know who your are or what you are but, one thing is for sure, you're a lot smarter than I am------------Sam

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  28. Hey, don’t you all get it? Every anonymous post defending Ken’s ideas IS Ken. Do you really think that there are people out there who read his book and find it convincing? And supporting him en masse on John’s blog? This is the last place on earth where he can still thrive and he is desperately trying that. Ignore those posts. John should remove them.

    He is probably also “Anonymous and PROUD of it!”. He's just trolling around on this blog because he has nowhere else to go or anything to do. He is pathetic and bored to death. He even tried to put me some springs in my MT-21 Algodoo simulation. While that was obviously not going to work.

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    1. Marinus, Maybe you are right. All I have to say, is the guy is relentless! I think he is insane and, should be locked up, (without a key board). Sam

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    2. "All I have to say, is the guy is relentless! I think he is insane and, should be locked up..."

      Didn't Bessler's detractors say the same thing about him?!

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    3. Yeah you're right. He should be locked up. But he is probably no threat to himself or anyone else. Just annoying. He thinks very highly of himself and is probably completely frustrated because of lack on recognition. Just like Bessler. Who was also not a very nice person to socialize with. Let's hope he falls of a cliff one of these days.

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    4. He must be nuts, he really thinks that he is Bessler! He is crazy, maybe he is already in a loony bin. That's why he has to remain anonymous, so no one will find out! Sam

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  29. This is the third month the 24th day the fifth day of spring my name is Stephen Glorioso. Take it or leave it it's not debatable.

    Ironic, isn't it, when you draw the parallels. What would Bessler say? No need to guess, let's see. In his portrait he points downward in accusatory hand gesture, by the way, that gesture could easily be found in a table of hand gestures. Let's see now he points at a deformed skull, by the way, there is a word that describes it which also means irony and corpse. This is very important in the understanding that you have found the location of what works. Sorry I digress again, but let me finish this once and for all. You will notice on the left side there is a book, and this is very important; the book is angled and leaning off of what would normally be the nasal cavity of a skull, however, this particular skull is deformed. Let me now stop and express myself in such a way to alleviate any emotional responses you could have reading this. So far I've described this scene, and I'm making a guess that most of you think my observations are convoluted. This is a simple deduction on your part! However, I did not make this drawing, so don't blame me if your ego is injured. It is not my intention to cause injury or confusion. These are clues that have been backtracked for the sole purpose of proving Beyond A Reasonable Doubt that I know the location of the drawings that reveals the mechanical principles that allow what was thought to be impossible possible, let us now proceed on with the dissection of the rest of the elements. The top corner of that book is resting on a silhouette shape of a dog the corner of the book is resting on its ear now on the lower corner of that book, nearest to Bessler, he holds his thumb both supporting the book ln it’s position, and also indicating a location within the book. Taking the shape of the left hand configuration from the hand gesture table; that configuration indicates mind! In another words he's saying, “mind the corners.” There is a book that happens to have a dog-eared nosed corner, it’s pretty amazing. That book still exist in a prestigious location, a historical first edition. All that I have shared with you today is what Bessler left to prove he understood As Above So Below, neither to the left nor the right, straight up and straight down. It’s not about you, it’s not about me, it’s not about Fame nor Fortune. It’s about truth and how you use it to create a better world. Just remember to stop jumping to conclusions! The riddle of why I said namby-pamby is the nursery rhyme little Jack Horner, and all those people who interpreted incorrectly and do not understand it’s hidden meaning about Jack and how it applies to Johann Bessler. You should understand it’s a diminutive name they can apply to both John and Jacob hint hint! There’s a parallel here; I wonder if there’s any parallels!!!!!!!!!!! to investigate in a book of drawings with explanations that is riddled with hints! The funny thing, is if I told you how I personally discovered the truth, I would not expect you to believe me. That’s the hilarious thing about truth, it really doesn’t care whether you believe it or not and neither do I, because it’s not about me or you ,it’s about truth. For all that do not believe, Johann Bessler drew the toy page. The bottom line. let’s get to it is a spinning egg. The point of drawing an egg with two parallel lines between, is a oval, this indicates Resurrection and birth. Many great people in history have had insight, most of them were not interested in personal gain. They understood they were merely passing through this life. Remember 55 represents the Ten Commandments. You know, two tablets and the 8th commandment is Thou shalt not steal! It is also handwritten on the toy page upper left-hand corner. Didn’t see that one coming did you? When you finally find the location you’ll also know chapter and verse of where the truth originated, and then you could bear Witness of the Resurrection.

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    1. With respect Stephen, your analysis makes no more sense to me than Ken’s does. I read your words with more care than I did Ken’s but in the end I think you are both going up two wrong paths.

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    2. I think I just choked on that red pill Stephen G. slipped us! It reads like a bunch of word salad. Kind of like John's explanation of how five weights can make eight noises inside of a turning wheel.

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    3. SG writes "The funny thing, is if I told you how I personally discovered the truth, I would not expect you to believe me."

      What is truth to one person can be babbling nonsense to another. I suspect most of those here will look at your comment the second way. But I do agree that there are a lot of clues contained in that first DT portrait and they are there for a reason. That portrait needs to be very carefully studied.

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    4. Irregardless of the clues and how I backtrack them all you have to do is look at the illustration in theatrum Machinarium General 15 pages past page one eight eight tab 8 figure 16 study it and then look below the configuration of the sphere and the marks that is Bessler's logo the chapter that describes chapter three refers to Bessler I'm tired of hearing how truth is subject two opinion truth is not subject to opinion truth is truth people have to stop being cowardly and be honest when they make a mistake!

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  30. I'm sure I'm being insulted; I just wish you could explain it a little better---------Sam

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  31. Remember theaters have mechanics they also have curtains in like a lion out like a lamb. By the way it's not Leopold it's Leupold also Sturm is Sturmii
    Jungnickel is spelt jungenickel chapter and verse 8:16

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  32. When Bessler says curtain he's referring to illustrations in a book the books name in Latin is Theatrum Machinarum Generale by Jakob Leupold the translation is theater of General mechanics when he says curtain he means the illustrations in the back of the book the ironic part of it is the title of that page translates to bottle train the significance is obvious investors portrait you must look at the bottom outside corner study it closely and maybe it will open up your mind

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  33. Hello Fletcher,Please, Would like your comments on my post last week (20 March,15:39 and 15:48. I do appreciate your insights! Thanks.

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  34. Hi Richard .. it is my opinion that Bessler's one-direction wheels had continuous imbalance i.e.1. were constantly OOB i.e.2. asymmetric torque was constantly produced. This surplus of overbalance or excess torque (which he called excess impetus, excess weight, and preponderance) from the mechanical embodiment and enactment of his PM Law, which I've scoped previously elsewhere. Therefore ANY design that does not have 'instant' torque from a standing start, in ANY position (such as was reported of B's.), is going to fail dismally i.e. be a false PM wheel with symmetric torque capabilities only. Unfortunately this includes MT 25 and ANY derivatives, and also includes parametric oscillators. UNLESS they have constant torque. IMO.

    There are others at BW.com willing and able to discuss your ideas further, most likely. And help you learn and refine sim models (like Algodoo as a starter) as a self teaching aid, as previously suggested. They may well be more receptive and open to the ideas you have than I am able to be, for the reasons I have given. All The Best -f

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  35. I just thought of this question: One of the people who were privileged to see and hear Bessler’s wheel said that at every turn of the wheel, (a weight could be heard gently hitting the side of the wheel). If one weight was only heard, then why did Bessler say that the weights worked in pairs? Were both weights hitting at the same time and therefore sounded like one weight was hitting?

    Just a thought...

    Perpetualman.

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    1. I think Bessler was really saying the weights could be considered to be arranged into pairs on opposite sides of the drum. The one on the ascending side was closer to the axle than the other on the descending side which was the one making a noise. That made the over balance. They were a pair but that does not mean they were mechanically connected together. They couldn't be because if they were there would have to be something near or through the axle. Bessler made a hole in the Merseburg drum cover so people could reach in and touch the axle. He would not do that if they could feel anything connecting the weights in the pair. We have to stop thinking the design he used looked like those hammermen toys. That's just another dead end approach, imo.

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    2. IMO the very word connectedness should not be considered while building...it sort of creates confusion and people think of all types of cords all over making the wheel look not so simple...
      I feel the internal mechanism is very simple and no inter connection is reqd as the levers are fitted on a common disk... connection already preexists...
      What should happen is during every rotation the weights maintain their respective positions in a stable manner...due to various incidental forces created...
      Karl didn't see a maze of cords inside, did he?...

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    3. SK wrote "Karl didn't see a maze of cords inside, did he?..."

      We don't know exactly what Karl saw. Bessler said his wheel required a Connectedness Principle. If anon 03:50 is right and there were no connections between the levers across the diameter of a drum, then the connections would have had to have been between neighboring levers as show in MT 9, 10, 11, 12, and 16 (MT 14 and 15 are excluded because they do show connections through the axle). That Ken B wheel requires 40 cords to work, but only 16 are actually necessary for coordinating the lever motions during drum rotation. The other 24 could be eliminated by just modifying the design a little. 16 cords for 8 levers is only 2 cords per lever and I don't think Karl would have thought them to be a "maze of cords". We have to remember that he collected various clocks and scientific instruments. He was used to seeing some very complicated ones and that is probably why he described what Bessler showed him as being so simple that a carpenter's boy could duplicate it after studying it for a while. Even Bessler said that when his design was finally revealed, people would say it wasn't worth all of the money he got for it!

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    4. Why can't we keep it as simple as possible...why cords at all... Springs can be employed and they can hold levers in place... You see a lot of action has to take place inside for producing the reqd motive power... What can go wrong during rotation is cords impairing the levers... cords won't last long... They can get mangled...it is pure raw strength of steel... just levers, weights and springs...
      Connectedness need necessarily mean connection by cords...
      All that banging and other scratching noises don't suggest involvement of cords...
      Tell me, are cords employed in a Ferris wheel?...

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    5. If bessler really did use cords in his final wheels he wudnt be so dumb to reveal it openly in the drawings...
      And, just because we notice cords in some of the drawings we can't conclude that his later wheels involved cord usage...
      Remember that the wheels depicted in the drawings are failed attempts...

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    6. SK said "And, just because we notice cords in some of the drawings we can't conclude that his later wheels involved cord usage...Remember that the wheels depicted in the drawings are failed attempts..."

      While it's true that none of the MT machines can work, maybe we can consider that he used cords because he wrote at the beginning of MT:

      "... no illustration by itself contains a description of the motion; however, taking various illustrations together and combining them with a discerning mind, it will indeed be possible to look for a movement and, finally to find one in them."

      That would suggest that his working OOB wheels could have used cords and also springs.

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    7. This is where we differ and this different approach can bring different results...so it is found that there is no compelling evidence to suggest that cords play a major role...
      All of us cannot follow a similar pattern while discerning... what something is discerning to one may not be so to another...
      So it can be finally realized that cords usage is an individual's choice altogether... now since you didn't succeed using cords then why try it without the cords... mentally of course?...

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  36. Weights worked in pairs like a see-saw... one opposite another... one weight hits at every turn...

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    1. Suresh Tab 8 figure 16 theatrum Machinarium General Jacob Leupold 1724 pull back the curtain 15 pages past 188 finish the illustration.

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    2. I am really at loss dear... can't make out a thing even though you may have something to show us...it is too early to rule out but your expressions can be understood only by some one in a different era...

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    3. Suresh I'm giving you the link what Bessler called the curtain it is a PDF file you can download it at this site the links should bring you to the download page of theatrum Machinarium General

      https://doi.org/10.3931/e-rara-11728

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    4. I studied that book many years ago, and I just looked at it again Stephen. I see no point in ever looking at it again. Lovely drawings but apart from that, waste of time.

      JC

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    5. So you're telling me there's no significance of that particular figure

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    6. Shit..I tried downloading... halfway my Mobile's internal storage space is full... the battery is also down... due to lockdown here I am not able rectify this...

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    7. Suresh the size of that download is 111.6 MB

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    8. Hardly 30 mb is available...I want to visit a mobile repair shop but everything remains closed here due to curfew...I am very eager to see what you mean... you could have something important... can't rule out anything before deeply looking into it... but this darned mobile is not cooperating... even the battery needs to be charged every 14 minutes...my first comment to you half typed got deleted and I am retyping the same now...I have a feeling your clues are too deep and not possible for guys like me to understand...I believe there are more simpler ones... anyway, I am eager to know what you have found...
      I lost faith in Ken...

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    9. Suresh I hope you solve your problem with some simple calculations I feel you will be able to discern the value of the example of figure 16 and also project the other half with relative ease if you have any problems discerning exactly how it applies to the principle of Shifting weights I will be more than happy to explain it to you good luck and have a successful day

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    10. What particular figure? I’ve just got the whole book.

      JC

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    11. This book had a lot of influence on Bessler. He had to use overhead compound pulley hoists so his wheels could lift heavy weights right from start up before they built up any angular momentum. This page gives us an idea of the kinds of pulley arrangements he would have been using like the ones in the middle of the right side of the page. They show compound pulleys with 8:1, 6:1, and 4:1 mechanical advantages:

      https://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/pageview/3583257

      Henry L.

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    12. Hi John

      "theatrum Machinarium General 15 pages past page one eight eight tab 8 figure 16" (that's page 188 in the actual scanned book John)

      After page 188 of the book, the pages with drawings on them are not numbered, they are tabbed.

      The drawings are on page 232 in my viewer John. Tab VIII you will see in the upper right corner of the page.

      I don't find anything significant there.

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    13. Figure 16 (XVI) is at the bottom RH corner. It is not the set of pulleys. Some of the weights on the pulley-blocks are numbered 16, but the actual figure 16 is numbered in Roman numerals.

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    14. Thanks Zhyyra, you confirm what I already found, nothing of interest. I really don’t know what you get out of all your mystifying SG, it’s meaningless. I already know all I need to know without going back over books I studied 30 years ago. I’m trying to finish my wheel and my book, before i it’s too late!

      JC

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    15. Do you understand that page and how it reflects to the toy page? The upper right corner is where Tab 8 is, right below it is 5 lb over a pulley to five pounds. If you look on the toy page there is a handwritten number at the top, 558, coincidence huh! On the bottom outside corner is the figure, if you look straight at the weight distribution design you will notice it has a C on its side of the large weight and Sc: right below. If you take that image, it coincidentally looks like half Besslers logo and turning 90 degrees you will see the smiling ghost like face of course that's just another coincidence. Now calculate what would happen if you took the two pound weight away, what would happen to the distribution across the bar? You know length and distance, that drawing is drawn to imply the beam goes off page. This is an example redirecting the force of gravity. A simple understanding of that the principal can be applied in a different configuration. Taking the name of the artist to its root parts and researching their etymologies you will be able to understand the implication of The Vessel, skul, and book that Bessler is pointing to in his portrait.

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    16. Thank you Stephen, but I fear you are as mixed up as Ken is. I wonder what you’ll make of my book when it comes out. According to both or either of you, my book will be equally confused but I think you’ll convert to my way of thinking.

      JC

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    17. JC wrote 25 Mar 20 : "I’m trying to finish my wheel and my book, before it’s too late!

      I wonder what you’ll make of my book when it comes out."

      Are you self publishing as before John? With or without a working prototype? What is your planned release date please?

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    18. Thank you for your concern John, don't worry about me! You know there's another hidden message in all of this. I call your attention to the CS at the top of Tab 8 as well as the bottom. You know on the right hand side at the top of the page there is an illustrated hand. It also has CS. You know,” As Above So Below.” Taking that theme and applying it to the numbers 8 and then 16, then putting them together becomes 8:16. Interesting, would it be a time or place, applying it to John 8:16. Let's see what that says.
      John 8:16 King James Version (KJV)
      16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
      Let's have your opinion John do you think the letters CS could have any significance.

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    19. Now let's talk about a ghost in that machine.Now if you turn the page 90 degrees and look upon the large weight at figure 16 you might see a smiling ghost

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    20. SG: I am yet to go through your clues... but a question keeps nagging me...does your approach provide a clear cut view of wheel's internal mechanism?...

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    21. Yes Suresh, but please study that figure. It may look complicated, but it really is not. Everyone overlooks the simplistic; that design is for a see saw type a self oscillating design. To extrapolate the principal to the mechanism in a wheel design has far less parts. keep the faith in these trying times hopefully someday we can talk face-to-face end talk about are unique experiences until then I think you'll do well!

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    22. JC wrote "According to both or either of you [that is, SG and/or KB], my book will be equally confused but I think you’ll convert to my way of thinking."

      I think JC has forgotten my prophecy which can be called the "Sayer of Sooths 2029 Prophecy" and was intended to counter the "Mr. Lepard Spots 2029 Prophecy" which currently curses JC and prevents him from finding any success with his wheel design. Like MLS I delivered my prophecy last year. My prophecy says that JC will eventually accept KB's wheel design as the actual one Bessler used. He will then go on to make the first working reproduction of it and this will happen before the year 2029 is over.

      Right now both prophecies unfortunately have the same chance of fulfillment. But only one can be fulfilled. One will bring him only frustrating and bitter failure but the other will bring him much success, praise, and fame. I'm praying that the second one prevails. I think he should also beginning carrying lucky talismans with him at all times. They are a powerful tool in combating bad prophecies and evil curses. I have used them successfully in my own life and recommend them to all that I think can benefit from them.

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  37. Ken... sometimes you appear very good and sometimes you are simply inconvinceable...
    What really happens to your logic, common sense and intelligence at times is incomphrensible...
    Your mind is full of information and even understanding of things like UFOs is just a child's play to you...
    But you get mad or lose your balance when someone talks Ill of your book or your wheel concept...
    That is understandable...you have worked really hard and finally come up with a design you think is nearest to the real one...
    But, my dear, try to swallow with a little salt when someone gives his verdict...
    Things could be different when viewed from
    a different angle...
    You feel so much convinced because no one else has has finished his research so fast and even published it... you wrongly think you have done a great favour... but the bare fact is you have not...
    JC sir's verdict about your achievement is actually perfect...
    But you are behaving like an unyielding bad child...
    You are throwing away all logic and sanity when someone critisizes your hard work...and you become silly and start hitting back in vengeance...
    There seems to be solution to your wired behavior at such times...
    It is quite laughable the way you hit out...
    If you possessed a machine gun and we were in reach one can imagine what would happen...
    I am too confused about your multifaceted personality...
    Your otherwise matured nature just vanishes... you lashout at anything and everything like a mad rhino...
    It appears you resort to writing for money...in the past, you have been writing on so many topics... you have no expertise on a single subject...jack of all trades and master of none... purely for commercial reasons...I am not saying you should publish free but you have not focused on naturality or originality
    of things the cosmos... you have become a wayward genius...a genius gone wrong...
    Don't get me wrong Ken...by heart, I have love and affection for you... to some extent, you can say I am almost your fan...I like you more than I appreciate JC sir...you know one thing... you are a simple minded person while he is not so... but he is very much right when he says that you are on the wrong path...
    My humble request Ken the next time someone lashes out at you please don't forget the pinch of salt...you are not always wrong dear...we like you most of the time... look for the truth...hard work is not very genius sometimes... smart work is... bessler mystery is a bit difficult to understand but the real danger lies in our ignorance and overconfidence...
    May the good will prevail...

    I am hard hit here in India... can't go out or procure anything... total lockdown for 21 days by PM... running out of bare necessities like newspapers, medicines, haircut, snacks, etc., Finding life really hard... can't even go out for a walk... this blog is a noon at such times... my heartfelt gratitude to JC sir... my sore throat is really getting worse without antibiotics,...at such times blogging really helps...JC sir has done a great job in still maintaining it...you can always vent out your anguish in this Corona era... this little beast has ruined humanity...it multiplies and renders you helpless... really hopeless...why did God create this miniature rascal???I sometimes wonder...is for revenging man's cruelty and slaughter of lesser beings... perhaps, you could throw some light...I am fearing for the worst with this throat condition...hot water sipping provides Relief... temporary... Yellow sir has challenged us... you know why he didn't challenge you?...now get on to the reigns and start from the scratch... Come out with a different approach and make sure Yellow turns PINK...

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  38. The expanding web of positive cases...a case history from New Delhi (East)...

    Feb.19: A woman travels to Saudi Arabia with h
    19-year-old son...

    Mar.10: They return to Delhi. Her brother,
    them at airport...

    Mar.12: She develops fever and cough, sees a
    local doctor...

    Mar.15: She is taken to GTB hospital's
    in a cab where doctors refer her to
    RML hospital...

    Mar.17: She tests positive for Covid-19...

    Mar.20: Her brother and mother test
    positive...

    Mar.21: Her two daughters, aged 24 and 26,
    test positive...

    Mar.22: The local doctor who first saw her on
    Mar 12 tests positive...

    6 Total Covid-19 positive linked to the case...

    Showing symptoms:
    Local doctor's wife and daughter, high risk of Covid-19...

    Quarantined but no symptoms:
    Her 19-year-old son who travelled with her...

    Others under watch:
    74 persons in her locality...

    Her brother's contacts also run into nearly a 100 as he took part in a few mass gatherings before being tested positive...

    Yet to be investigated:

    Between Mar 12 and Mar 17, the local doctor saw several patients at his clinic. He also worked at clinic for 5 days and saw over 100 patients who could have been infected. Local authorities are trying to locate them...




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  39. Anonymous25 March 2020 at 23:31
    JC wrote 25 Mar 20 : "I’m trying to finish my wheel and my book, before it’s too late!

    I wonder what you’ll make of my book when it comes out."

    Are you self publishing as before John? With or without a working prototype? What is your planned release date please?

    It depends on when my wheel is finished. If it works I’ll find a publisher, it is doesn’t I’ll self-publish. But I’d prefer not to go down Ken’s route, without a working model first.

    JC

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    1. But will you be doing a book without either a working wheel or a working sim? It would be nice if like Ken you at least had a working sim to give your version some credibility. Without that it will probably be all dismissed as just another no runner based on imaginary clues you found. You also run the risk of someone simming it and showing it's a no runner after you went to the trouble of doing the book.

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    2. A working wheel beats all!

      JC

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  40. One thing I always find very unacceptable... Believe it or not...I always keep babbling about it... But no one cares and I don't know how else to convince...
    This is a fact... bessler wheel investigation is unlike any other investgation... very typical and Most simply cannot comprehend it the way it should be...
    There are so many different approaches and understanding of the mystery... amongst us...
    We are not United in our views when it comes to the understanding of the internal mechanism...
    For example, I understand it in a different way, SG's way is different, Ken understands it quite differently...

    One thing is proved already beyond doubt... Ken's approach didn't yield the desired results despite tremendous efforts...he must have spent sleepless nights... not to speak of the expenses incurred by him thereby...

    Well, what really went wrong?...
    This is something to do with the method of approach... either he didn't take off on the right track or faultered somewhere in the journey...or his entire outlook from the beginning wasn't correct...
    I sometimes really feel sorry about it all...
    Is it because he was very steadfast in his conviction and didn't heed to others advise?...
    Is there anything we can learn from his failure?...
    Are we also committing the same blunder?...
    My heart goes all out to him sometimes because he is the one who kept us so informed about not only his progress but also new incite into the mystery... he promptly always gave us his opinion on every matter...I don't have words to describe his efforts...he is the most highly misunderstood person...

    I am very sure about one thing... the internal mechanism is such that when you finally get it right in mind you will know for sure that it can't fail... even before you attempt to build the same... This point is not understood by either by Ken or JC sir or anybody else...
    They feel that they can only ascertain that it is really the bessler wheel after it is built...

    Bessler wheel design is the only one of its kind in the world...it is quite unique...it is very simple... what Karl described is very much correct...

    Whenever JC sir insists "IF my wheel works..."
    I always wonder why he uses that word IF...

    Does it means he is not sure and is just gambling or taking a chance...

    Why can't he be very firm and always assure us by using the word that IT Will definitely work?...

    Well, I think I will never be able to convince anyone on this... It is going to remain that way...

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    1. @ SK
      Knowledge and belief are two different things, which you obviously confuse. Knowing that a wheel construction actually works is something you can only do if you have a physical model. Everything else is just belief that it works. Your excuses for not needing a physical model are just ridiculous. If you are not able to build the wheel yourself, why don't you have it built? If it's so simple, but you have two left hands and don't want to explain it to anyone who could build it for you, why don't you have it built in pieces by different people, which you then only have to put together? Without a physical model, you are just a pitiful blabbermouth who cannot be taken seriously. Even worse than Ken.

      ovaron

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    2. I've always been critical of everyone concerning this thing. All these so-called experts and no working wheels. At the point where fantasy dominates the mind we are selling religion. So I hold myself to a higher standard,such that all my ideas are subject to fall like rain and make a puddle... so then I play in the mud and see what comes next. ,'point being I don't get attached and if all of the clues don't fit the work and I can't reinterpret my way out...it's onward and hopefully (in more ways than one) UPWARDS!

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    3. Your concerns are important...
      Firstly, I am not saying you are both wrong in opposing my views...
      Secondly, I would request you to kindly give it a deeper look... for things appear different many times when all possibilities are taken into consideration...

      You may have judged me in a haste by any chance...

      I have some deeper understanding of the wheel in question... because, I am a bit odd person and others easily misunderstand me often...
      If you are really concerned I would suggest you get into a deeper debate with me before finally dismissing my beliefs...or my findings...
      Because, when you suppress something without completely weighing the pros and cons all the possibilities are lost...
      A serious besslerian would go Greater lengths or that extra mile to unravel the truth...

      Just imagine, tomorrow, what if I really produce a working wheel and prove it to you... will you give me the same treatment?...
      I may have my own hurdles in not coming out with a prototype...
      Did you try to find out what those obstacles are?...
      You will feel sorry for me when you know it...

      All pm builders are not the same... there are those that build and build till the end...and there are those that build and fail and give up... there are also those that know something but wait for the right moment to start the work...
      BW internal parts need to be freshly created...not available in stores readymade...
      You said many things with shallow thinking...
      It is ok and I don't blame you... All people in this world are not besslerlike... bessler was different... remember, he built the real thing and still was called a fraud by many...it is not your fault dear... this very subject is like that...

      In my case I approached a factory owner to make the parts and paid him All I had in advance... But to my bad luck, he happened to be more shrewd and clever and was more interested in learning the complete design...
      Finally, I had to abandon the project after he swallowed my hard-earned little fortune...I am yet to get over it...
      My life story is much more pathetic than I can explain...
      But, I assure you all that I would be the last person to misguide anyone in this world...
      Forgive me if stated something wrong here...

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  41. John, I see pendulums mentioned a lot here but where does Bessler mention them? He only says "swinging weights" How do you define each of these two terms?

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    1. John, hasn't Karl said (seen) that, "whatever happens", happens exactly at the right time. A pendulum would be a perfect timer. It can use a rope or a rod. The children clue would suggest a rod. imo.

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  42. Suresh K. wrote: "One thing is proved already beyond doubt... Ken's approach didn't yield the desired results despite tremendous efforts...he must have spent sleepless nights... not to speak of the expenses incurred by him thereby..."

    That's what you may think. He however says his carefully made sims show that the design works very well and that its parts are also precisely described by dozens of clues in the two DT portraits which were previously unknown until he found and verified them. He also says his book on Bessler's wheels is his best selling one of the six he's written so far. I suspect he's sleeping very well indeed!

    Henry L.

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    1. Henry, do you happen to know if Ken and Donald Trump are in any way related to each other? They both seem to be troubled by the fact that most people are ignoring their truth and fake news. Glad to read his book is selling great and he is sleeping well.

      Leo H.

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    2. P.S. If you say his book on Bessler's wheel is his best selling one of the six he has written, does that mean that the other five are not selling at all?

      Leo H.

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    3. @Leo H.

      As I understand it all of Ken's books are selling okay. But he claims that his last book on Bessler's wheels has sold as many copies in its first year as his next best selling one (a book titled "Secrets of UFO Technology") did in its first three years! He says he's surprised that it is doing so well. One reason might be because he made more of an effort to promote it than he did with his other earlier books. His books tend to be very detailed treatments of subjects which unfortunately tend to have limited appeal for those just looking for some light reading material. You have to study one of Ken's books to get the most out of it. They're really meant for serious students of different subjects. It took me over a month of part time reading to make it through his Bessler book but I'm glad I made the effort. It made me realize how really little I knew about the wheels prior to reading it. It was a real eye opener and I can recommend it to anyone who actually wants to have a serious chance of building a working replica one of Bessler's wheels.

      Henry L.

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  43. Progress is progressing! New wheel design is coming together steadily. Look forward to seeing if this new design is a winner! But, I won’t know until it’s finished.

    “Having knowledge of what works and what doesn’t really helps.” 😊

    Perpetualman.

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    1. Lol. Yes, I have amassed a fair amount of knowledge about wheels that don't work. Sometimes I go back to a wheel like that to change something to make sure it really doesn't work.

      I simulated the wheel I wanted to build at the end of this summer in Algodoo. It didn’t work. I’m getting quite a collection already. Maybe I can donate them to the museum of unworkable devices. Would be a shame if all this knowledge is lost.

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    2. Marinus, I've got 100 or so more, you could add to your collection! Sam

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    3. @Sam. And you can look forward to adding even more to your collection unless you quit or start simming.

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    4. 02:04 You are right, I keep adding them, about one a week. It's just that I'm a lot better with a hack saw then a key board. Sam

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  44. I do the same thing every now and then. I usually find myself going back to see if I can make a change here or there, but to no avail.

    Maybe this time however, it will produce the results that I’ve been searching for. But if not, I’ll still have fun building it!

    Maybe I should use one of the little people in “Darby O’Gill and the Little People” 🤣

    Perpetualman.

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    1. Lol. Who knows. I believe that was also an assumed explanation in Bessler's time.

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    2. Did you manage to build a working simulation of an entire wheel in WM Jon?

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    3. Perpetualman wrote: "But if not, I’ll still have fun building it!"

      Yes it's really great fun spending effort, time, and money making one failed wheel after another. I've been having a LOT of fun over the years and can't wait to have even more!

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  45. Another question:

    When Bessler was talking about (the upper weight), was he talking about the weight in the 12 O’clock position, or just any weight that’s above the horizontal plane?

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    1. The way I interpret it is that he means the "outer" weight(s). So yes it would be the upper weight in the 12 O'clock position but it would be the bottom weight in the 6 O'clock position.

      Since "The upper weight is not attached to an external mechanism, nor does it rely on external moving bodies", I think it is fixed to the drum which acts as a flywheel to store the energy produced by the "internal parts". Also some energy is used to keep the "internal parts" going.

      Bessler: "... this upper weight incessantly exercises universal motion from which the essential constituent parts of the machine receive power and push."

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    1. Your welcome sir.

      Isn't it a great adventure solving the biggest riddle in history of mankind. He who solves it, saves the planet from that same mankind. If that fart hadn't been so greedy we would now be living in a totaly different and less poluted world.

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  47. Stewrat @ BW.com 23 Oct 2014 wrote :

    "Hi Ralph

    That section of text is a translation of pages 18-21 of DT. The translation was done by Andrew Witter (a.k.a Ted of Chicago), but I'm not sure whether he ever translated the whole book. The translation is misleading and contains a number of mistakes, which I've repeatedly pointed out over the years. Mike Senior's translation in John's DT book is more accurate. For example:

    a) "(or lower cylinder)" - this should read as 'narrow cylinder'. 'Lower cylinder' misleads people to think there is an upper and lower cylinder, when this is just describing the outer appearance of the wheel as a disc or narrow cylinder.

    b) "The upper weight" - this is a mis-translation of 'Uberwicht' which refers to preponderant/overbalancing weight, and is therefore clearly misleading.

    Those are the two main problems with that translation, but there are others also, and therefore it should not be used as a clue source. Please refer to Mike's/John's or my own instead.

    Stewart"

    -f

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    1. Thank you Fletcher. It is indeed the translation of Andrew witter. I will look at it again this weekend.

      "Uberwicht" might also be translated to "main weight" or "head weight".

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    2. I think both Senior's and Witter's translations of "Uberwicht" could have been better. The word really refers to the CoM or center of mass of the active weights and their levers inside of the drum when they were driving the axle. When Bessler wrote in AP (page 348 in Collins version):

      “My device runs according to “preponderance”, and turns everything else along with it. On one side it is heavy and full; on the other side empty and light, just as it should be. It must revolve through the principle of 'excess weight'.”

      He was basically saying that the Uberwicht or CoM was located on one side, the descending side, of the axle center which makes that side of the drum "heavy and full" and not directly under or at the axle center as when a drum is in balance. Since the CoM is then not located on the other side, the ascending side, of the axle, that side and its half of the drum become "empty and light".

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  48. Well, I got a little bit further today. I drilled the last of the holes, got the bushings put in place, got all my chains prepared, and now I’ll be working on making the mold for the cement weights. Progress is steady and moving along nicely.

    I think I’ll have some Cheerios.

    Perpetualman.

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    1. A lot of pm chasers eat Cheerios. That's because each little piece looks like a wheel. As they float in a bowl of milk every once in a great while one will keep spinning. For most pm chasers that is the closest they will ever get to pm.

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  49. That includes you, Ken...
    It is a known fact... nothing new...
    You have also definitely undergone this phase...and still are...
    Why don't you realize all this and come out with something that is credible and groundbreaking...

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    1. Suresh were you able to study that figures 16 yet?

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    2. No dear, even though I am very eager...it is a total lockdown here... Maybe for about two more weeks...then I will buy a new battery or a new mobile when shops open...I will definitely then revert back to you...

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  50. It is quite possible that everyone one of us is holding a piece of the BW jig-saw...

    Individually, we have been hopeless...

    Precious time like 300 years is simply going down the drain... even now...

    Before more time drains out is there anything thing wise that can be done?...

    Who will Bell the cat?...

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The Legend of Bessler’s Perpetual Motion Machine

On 6th June, 1712, in Germany, Johann Bessler (also known by his pseudonym, Orffyreus) announced that after many years of failure, h...