Sunday 16 October 2022

Could Bessler have Given More Convincing Demonstrations?

We’ve often discussed Johann Bessler’s predicament; how could he convince a potential buyer that his claims that his wheel could turn continuously with no obvious external source of energy were genuine, without allowing the buyer access to the internal workings of the wheel?  Patent laws were at their very beginning and weak, short lived and open to abuse.  Many patents that were granted were either for unproven designs, or accidentally duplicated for different applicants - and provisionally for ten years, although both Newcomen and Savery had their patents extended before they ran out.

So what are the choices, and how do you prove that the machine is genuine?  Only by demonstrating what it can do; make it as easy as possible to show that there can be no connection with any external source of energy; run an endurance test to prove it can run continuously, provide alternative bearing sets open to thorough examination - and one more thing.  Find a person of unimpeachable reputation, who could not and would not allow himself to be associated with any fraudulent, criminal activity.  Persuade him to examine the machine and if he agrees that it is real, issue a certificate endorsing and approving the inventor’s claims.  Karl, the Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel was such a man.  I’m not going to discuss the Karl’s impressive reputation here, it’s in my biography of Bessler, but he was well regarded throughout the various nations in Europe and was a trusted negotiator for peace among the various warring nations of the time.

These ideas came from the mind of Gottfried Leibniz in close discussion with Bessler and seem to have encouraged the inventor to go ahead with the plans in the hope that they would result in a sale.

Bessler was not alone in keeping the details of design secret.  Thomas Newcomen went to great lengths to keep the details of his steam engine design secret.

In his ‘The Steam-Engine of Thomas Newcomen’, the author L.T.C. Rolt says that drainage in mines was just as big a problem on the continent as it was in Britain, and mines owners there were naturally interested in the Newcomen engine. 'A number of continentals visited Britain and at least one disguised himself as an artisan to discover the secrets of the engine.’”

“ The fame of this excellent pumping engine soon spread across England and many people came to see it, both from England and from foreign nations. All of them wanted to make use of the invention at their own mines and exerted themselves to acquire the knowledge needed to make and erect such a wonderful engine, but the inventors, Newcomen and Calley (Newcomen's original assistant) were exceedingly jealous and very anxious to preserve exclusively for themselves and their children, the knowledge of making and operating their invention, which had cost them such unprecedented toil. Even the Spanish ambassador to the Court of St. James's who came all the way from London with a large suite of foreigners, to see the engine, was not even allowed to enter the engine house however large a reward he offered and had to return very dissatisfied without having seen anything but the wonderful results, that this small engine was able to produce.'

Above quotations from my book, “Perpetual Motion, An Ancient Mystery Solved”.

Could Bessler have adopted a similar method?  I doubt it because his machine was so much simpler and cheaper to build, and whereas Newcomen insisted on providing relatives in the earlier installations to help operate and train the owners while controlling knowledge of the technology involved, Bessler’s machine was simple and easy to build and operate.  We know this because Karl commented thus.

He could only try what he did try, and apart from asking a lower price there isn’t much he could do to improve his chances of a sale.  Subsequently lowering the price might be thought of as an admission that he had asked too much in the first place which might make people think he was just greedy.

What is beyond question is that his wheel was enabled to turn continuously by the force of gravity on the weights.  This is an extraordinary situation; for more than 300 years we have been taught that what Bessler did is impossible.  Clearly it is not impossible and therefore what we have been taught is wrong.  At some point in the future a version of Bessler’s wheel will appear and the scientific institutions will have sit up and take notice.  I can’t wait!

JC

11 comments:

  1. The following wheel design was based on the findings of Professor Eric Laithwaite, who is well known and respected for his established research is the fields of electromagnetism and gyroscopy, and contended that this particular design is not actually a perpetual motion, contrary to what people were labelling it at the time.

    The main demonstration was a heavy gyroscope at one end of a lever, which easily fell to the bottom and raised up a lighter weight on the other end of the lever. However, when the gyroscope was spinning, the lighter weight raised the gyroscope instead, since the gyroscope exhibited no torque, but put all of its weight directly downward on the fulcrum of the balance beam.

    This effect was demonstrated with the more infamous handheld device, whereby Dr. Laithwaite had to spin a massive flywheel in order to lift it above his head, a project that was successfully replicated years later by Veritasium on Youtube.

    The wheel involves two gyroscopes on levers, as shown here: https://tmpfiles.org/dl/150831/gyrowheel.jpg The gyroscope towards the right is attached to a lever, which is attached by its other end to the left side of the wheel, and vice versa for the other gyroscope. The gyroscope towards the right is not spinning, and thus the wheel exhibits the expected clockwise torque. The gyroscope towards the left would also be expected to exhibit an equal and opposite torque, except that it is spinning. Thus, this gyroscope exhibits no torque, but instead puts its full weight on the right side of the wheel, likewise generating a clockwise rotation of the wheel.

    The wheel would have more than two gyroscopes, but it is interesting to note that they must come in pairs in order to operate. Once the pair is oriented vertically, the spinning gyroscope is stopped and transfers all of its rotational energy to the other gyroscope at rest, causing it to spin at the same velocity, thus switching which gyroscope spins and which does not.

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    1. @anon 11:50, At first it was quite amusing but it’s getting boring, please comment sensibly here.

      Thank you. JC

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    2. Yes, anon 21:03, please go away

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  2. I can't agree, he could have worked something out when he realized he wasn't going to make any money the way he wanted. Something was wrong with his invention. That's our mystery.
    Newcomen had no problems keeping his secret but still managed to bring it to market, despite any patent problems.
    What is beyond question is those wheels did not turn by gravity.

    Jeff

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    1. This is a difficult point Jeff. Bessler used weights in his wheel and said they were the PM itself. Without the presence of gravity, surely the wheels would not turn, otherwise what function did the weights perform? Yet gravity is a force not a source of energy. But gravity makes objects of mass fall, thus it enables Bessler’s wheel to turn.

      JC

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    2. It's not difficult at all. Gravity makes objects of mass fall but; the question is what makes objects of mass rise against gravity? That's what made his wheels turn. And the answer isn't 'gravity'. It's that simple. The "PM itself" is not the weights. That's a misdirection; probably meant to mislead his enemies.

      Jeff

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    3. And as I said, he could have built someone a wheel in a secure structure and rented it as an advertisement for its own usefulness in the field. Something was wrong with it that caused him to back down.

      Jeff

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  3. The Only course of action was to have a large group of famous scientist mathematicians and such intellectual greats gather all in one room after signing an agreement upon entering the room! Then Johann Bessler would proceed in doing all manners of demonstrations after which at the end of the demonstrations the wheel cover would be removed right in front of all eminent people in the room! The inspection will continue for everyone there and again demonstrations would be shown. They then must agree by observational fact that there are no fraud to be seen and then they must each sign a paper testifying to what they have observed.

    I do apologize for not commenting as much disciples would like me to but I have so many interviews to attend to. I have Joe rogan at 8 and the president at 12! Then every hour or so that I have free I would interview a MIB member , they are piling up in rows to question me but I have them all make an appointment I have to fit them in to my schedule just as I had to fit this comment's time in to my schedule in between "convince people of my non existent working wheel" and "talk as much sentences as i can without making any sense at all".

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    1. @ Ken or whoever you think you are. Like anon above, it was amusing but now it’s not. Please go away.

      JC

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    2. Ugh, I just noticed that John deleted a comment in the last blog, and so I looked around to see which one it was, and it was Larry from the three stooges! But he left Curly and Moe, so I guess he just has something against Larry?

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    3. Of course he does, he's jealous: John is bald while Larry has hair
      https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uV4AAOSwoyFgIJfM/s-l400.jpg

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