Tuesday, 2 August 2022

Remote Viewing as a way to get more information?

Recently the subject of Remote Viewing (RV) surfaced on the Besslerwheel forum and my experience of it in 2008.  I was approached by an organisation headed by Daz Smith who organised six sessions with experienced ‘viewers’. You can find him on google.  He’s still involved in RV and has written several books.

In 2012 Monday 9th January, I published a blog on my experience without any writings or pictures.  You can read about the experiment here.

 https://johncollinsnews.blogspot.com/search?q=Remote+viewing

The post on BW forum caused a few emails asking me for more details and I’m considering posting the official report including writings and drawings here as a blog so that others can judge for themselves wether it is of any value.  

If there is sufficient interest I’ll publish it.

JC

40 comments:

  1. It is an experience that can let you think that the serious study is over and that we need something else ;) we drift towards the recreational or the poetic, fortunately it is not so... If the fact of touching an object can give you information, the Egyptologists should review their training. lol.

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    1. Yes I’m not saying I believe any of it, but there seems to be some interest, but we’ll see it there’s enough to justify publishing the reports.

      JC

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    2. @anon16:10
      There is big difference between handling objects to get information about their past owners, a practice known as "psychometry", and remote viewing which does not require one to physically touch anything.

      A remote viewer can just look at a general map of an area on the Earth (or on the Moon or on Mars!) and then his conscious mind can somehow temporarily project itself to that area and he can begin to "see" structures on the ground with a fair degree of accuracy. It's also possible to look at a photo or drawing of an object and describe its original's internal construction which obviously could also be done using the drawings of Bessler's wheels that we have.

      Both of these effects are real, but unfortunately only a very few people can genuinely do them. Edgar Cayce, known as the "Sleeping Prophet", was definitely one of them that could and demonstrated some remarkable examples of remote viewing during his lifetime. The vast majority of those who think they have these rare psychic powers are only deceiving themselves and anyone else who thinks they have them.

      PM Dreamer

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    3. Lol! Remote viewing? What's next...finding the secret of B's wheels by reading tea leaves or casting his horoscope? That is all total nonsense, imo. Stick with looking for clues in his books and building, building, and building until you drop. That's the only way that will ever work. If you can't build, then sim, sim, and sim until you drop. Don't rely on a lot spooky bs to give you any real answers.

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    4. I can't build or sim, but I'm firmly committed to philosophizing, philosophizing, and philosophizing until I drop! I have found that strong wine helps this.

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  2. The information needed to produce a working device is there in that 2008 remote viewing report. - D.S.

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  3. These methods will only push PM further in the hokus pokus domain.
    I go with anon august 2, 22:03. Only astute science can and will eventually solve this problem.

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  4. Consciousness cannot be put into a test-tube, weighed and tested in different ways, therefore it does not exist.and you being aware is not real , this is science .

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    1. I’ll just repeat the first sentence from my blog 9th January 2012 -
      “ I have always tried to maintain an open mind to everything and yet I remain deeply sceptical of the possibility that one can retrieve information from a previous time by remote viewing.” I should add ‘place’ to the ‘time’.

      JC

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    2. As Carl Sagan once wrote "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof".

      If someone truly had the ability to see the future in detail, he would be able to tell what the next numbers drawn in a lottery would be so he could play them in advance of the drawing and make himself rich. If he could see the past in detail, he would be able to tell where buried treasures were located so he could recover them and make himself rich. But no one's claimed "powers" ever seems good enough to do these things.

      Also, if someone in the last 300 years could have remotely viewed the inner parts of Bessler's wheels just by looking at the drawings of them, then he could have started building them and made himself rich by selling them. However, that never happened despite of all of the claims of "psychic" abilities made by thousands of people during those centuries. Imo, they were all delusional then as all of them are nowadays. Has anybody ever actually had such powers? Who knows. I've never met any that convinced me they did.

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  5. Yes definitely post it. Let your readers review and decide if the information is worthy.

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  6. I don't think posting it will have an effect on how people view it, so you don't have anything to lose. Those who are open to this sort of thing will probably find it interesting.
    Personally i think there is a lot of information floating around out there, we just don't know how to tune into it. Sometimes, generally during the earlier stage of life, some of us make the connection without knowing and information is received. We haven't got a clue what it means and we see ghosts, imaginary friends or have premonitions etc, because it is our conscious self's way of interpreting it.
    I think the different methods we use to try and do paranormal things is just different ways of opening the same door, or tapping into the universal knowledge floating around, if you prefer.

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  7. Edgar Cayce was very successful in diagnosing illnesses from what I have heard and read. There is something to paranormal abilities.

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  8. @RH46 writes
    "...i think there is a lot of information floating around out there, we just don't know how to tune into it."

    I agree completely with that. After finally finishing Ken's book I reached the conclusion that there is no way, as he claims, that he could have just used a simple process of elimination and many gradually refined sims to finally find and interpret so many previously unrecognized clues that Bessler hid in the DT portraits. I think something genuinely paranormal had to be involved.

    Maybe after studying the DT portraits intently for years Ken was somehow able to pick up a small residue of the psychic energy Bessler's mind put into the drawings for the portraits as he toiled away day after day three hundred years ago to create them and that faint remaining energy is really what attracted Ken's attention to those hidden clues? Maybe he is uniquely sensitive to that energy and he didn't even realize it was slowly guiding him toward a final wheel design at the time?

    There's so much we still do not know about psychic phenomena. We have to keep in mind that lack of evidence is not necessarily evidence of lack. Radioactivity existed long before humans invented equipment to detect and measure it. Why can't the same be true for psychic phenomena? I also hope John posts that information about Bessler's wheels that was obtained by remote viewing. Maybe it will contain something valuable that we can't afford to ignore.

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    1. Yeah I want to see that remote viewing material too. It's either just a lot of nonsense and we'll realize it quickly. Or it could give us something to think about that we did not before. The more info we have about Bessler the better.

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  9. Here's a interesting article on the US government's secret program to investigate remote viewing for military purposes:

    https://yogaesoteric.net/en/remote-viewing-the-u-s-governments-secret-history-of-psychic-research/

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    1. As you may know professor Hal Puthoff, one of the scientists in charge of SRI, and I have corresponded for several years, ever since he read my book and agreed that the evidence I presented persuaded him that Johann Bessler’s claims were genuine. He once wrote that I should not believe everything I had read about RV. But does that leave anything of value? I don’t know.

      JC

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    2. There was another guy named Ingo Swann that was involved with Puthoff and Targ in creating interest in remote viewing and also the US government's "Stargate Project". Swann demonstrated that he was a powerful and accurate remote viewer on many occasions. It is claimed that a CIA agent once approached him and gave him the latitude and longitude of a "target" located on our Moon.

      Swann meditated on it and then began to describe a complex of buildings on the surface of the Moon! Supposedly, he was then handed a photo taken of that spot from a secret surveillance satellite that had been put into orbit around the Moon and it showed what looked like some sort of alien base up there and it exactly matched Swann's description of it! IIRC, it was located on the dark side of the Moon.

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    3. Maybe this is what Swann saw? Definitely looks like some buildings:

      https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/BEBH1yA3KnEBW0Lg3IcRUg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ3MDtjZj13ZWJw/http://41.media.tumblr.com/6ca5606a1fc2ef875dbba66fc0913155/tumblr_inline_o6camaQ88L1ttcnq2_1280.jpg

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    4. I don't believe that those are actually buildings constructed by aliens on our moon. I think it's far more likely they are just some rock layers that broke up to form large chunks of rock that only look like buildings. I think when we get better photos that will become apparent. Many were also saying that "Face on Mars" was supposed to be a giant alien head sculpture, but later higher resolution images showed it was just a mound of rock which looked like a face when shadows formed on its top during certain times of the Martian day. Don't believe everything you see on the internet. A lot of it is just click bait intended to attract eyeballs to watch annoying ads.

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    5. There are two rectanglular things in that photo on the sunny side that look like buildings to me. Maybe the space aliens who constructed them placed them near some natural rocks to hide them? On the building with the low roof if you look at the sunny side you can just make out a row of shadows rear the roof. I think they are large windows! There's also something on the roof of that low building that looks like a cannon to me. Maybe it was to protect them in case some enemies of the aliens arrived intending to bomb the buildings. They could then fire antispaceship explosion shells at it. I read somewhere that even the white house has missile launchers on its roof in case some terrorists in a plane try to crash into it.

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    6. NASA doesn't want you to see this photo, but someone copied it before they could censor it:

      https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fufo-videos.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F12%2Fmoon-structures-1024x576.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

      Try explaining this one away as an "accident of light and shadows"!

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    7. Wow! That looks like ruins that could be thousands of years old. The roof could have collapsed into it from being hit by little meteors all that time. It certainly wasn't built by anyone from our planet. That dark pit on the left looks like it might have been the entrance to a mine shaft. Maybe this is an abandoned alien mining facility of some sort? If it was then I wonder what they were mining? Makes you wonder what else is up there that they don't want us seeing!

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    8. @anon 21:22

      That photo you linked to could be a hoax. Is there any proof that it's actually an official NASA photo? Hoaxed images on the internet are a dime a dozen.

      jason

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    9. @anon 21:22
      That "entrance" to a mine on the left side of the photo looks like a large pool of some dark liquid. It even looks like that liquid is running over the lower edge of the pool and forming a stream that runs down toward the bottom of the photo. Liquids cannot exist on our Moon like that. I think this photo might actually be of some abandoned building on EARTH! Whoever said it was a NASA photo was hoaxing, imo.

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    10. It's probably just a Google Earth satellite image of some ancient ruins down here on earth. Here's an image of a South American ruin from about 400 AD. There are some similarities.

      https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-uoa0npUowbBxeeSuGsbaQAAAA%26pid%3DApi&f=1

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  10. "If there is sufficient interest I’ll publish it.
    JC"
    Is there enough interest or do we need some more?
    If you say we need to beg for it, I'll start wandering if preoccupied isn't you in disguise, with a wig and false beard.

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    1. No need to beg, I’m interested to see what you guys think. I’ll publish it in my next blog.

      I note that Anonymous 2 August 2022 at 21:49 wrote -

      “The information needed to produce a working device is there in that 2008 remote viewing report. - D.S.”

      Could DS be Daz Smith who first contacted me with his offer to arrange RV.

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    2. Puthoff does not have a Ph.D in physics. He earned a Ph.D in electrical engineering from Stanford University in 1967. He is not a physicist and some would say he's more of a pseudoscientist than a scientist. Many dismiss him as a kook because of his involvement with things like the Church of Scientology, the paranormal, and UFOs.

      His research into remote viewing was found to involve "cuing" the test subjects to help them get more accurate results. Attempts to duplicate that research with the cues removed showed that the results were no better than what random chance produced!

      You can find out more about him here:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_E._Puthoff

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    3. I don't know how this comment about Puthoff turned up down here, it was supposed to be a reply to Anonymous 4 August 2022 at 05:04 above!

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    4. John asked: "Could DS be Daz Smith who first contacted me with his offer to arrange RV."

      In case it was, here's some info I found on him:

      Daz Smith has been remote viewing in the UK since 1997. You can find his website here:

      https://www.remoteviewed.com

      In this youtube video from December 2021 he explains how he remote viewed the afterlife!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1s-INEh1s

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    5. "...he explains how he remote viewed the afterlife!"

      Now that really increases my faith in the validity of remote viewing. Lol!

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  11. I look forward to the release of the RV information.

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  12. Sorry for the delay. I’m trying to embed the pdf in the blog post, but so far I’m not having much luck. I may have to just put a link in.the blog.

    JC

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  13. That must be a mighty big PDF.

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  14. I'm attempting to remove view your PDF but I keep getting visions of a nice medium rare steak and bottle of brew. I'm thinking there's a real good chance it's gonna come true.

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    1. make that "remote view" ...

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  15. I would be interested to know what AI thinks of Bessler's tale. Would AI acknowledge Bessler being a fraud as a fact or an assumption?

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